Return-Path: Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com ([69.89.24.6] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4696979 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:52:08 +0200 Received: (qmail 14855 invoked by uid 0); 26 Apr 2012 12:53:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box551.bluehost.com) (66.147.242.151) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 2012 12:53:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pyxil.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:To:From; bh=ttbC7hyDGD4gEqJCus/9MDjYf4z2I2lQzAVkUGbNKuE=; b=p+wKzfzdAokPvra6bhrQsr9n3ZBjD3ozPKFjTv4yKR2SKH2EsQ+Ev1hHMD65rvrchyuUqnp9hVJ7rLEHEg/ptqljOkS39+0vFGhr9oKKMVEfuQCpbRvjLdlJTiBeMs8z; Received: from adsl-99-142-26-161.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net ([99.142.26.161] helo=Richard8) by box551.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SNOCD-0003PP-9R for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:53:18 -0600 From: "Richard Bajjalieh" To: "'After Effects Mail List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [AE] CS6 upgrade paths Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:52:39 -0500 Message-ID: <029101cd23ab$773bf410$65b3dc30$@pyxil.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0292_01CD2381.8E694770" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQHdqBvAzHQqw3QCL57EdmF8NwY0ZZaMBUrQ Content-Language: en-us X-Identified-User: {1753:box551.bluehost.com:afterlif:pyxil.com} {sentby:smtp auth 99.142.26.161 authed with bajjalieh@pyxil.com} This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0292_01CD2381.8E694770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, =20 I hope you=92re right (and I=92m wrong) but if it just =91lawyer = speak=92 you would think it would be the same in all upgrade language on Adobe=92s site. = Similar language was not used for the direct (more expensive) upgrade from CS5 = to CS6 that I bought. =20 My thought was that Adobe is trying to ease people out of the upgrade channel, into the cloud with discounts, and 50% of is a great discount = if you=92re ready to move to the cloud after one last upgrade... =20 =20 Rich Bajjalieh 847 220-0351 bajjalieh.r@gmail.com www.richbajjalieh.com =20 LinkedIn =20 =20 From: James Culbertson [mailto:albion@speakeasy.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:26 AM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 upgrade paths =20 I called Adobe sales to get clarification on the buy CS5.5 now for $399 = and get CS6 for free. They confirmed, and mentioned nothing about future = limits to updates. I can't imagine sales would neglect to mention this if they wanted avoid a major uproar. Talk about disassembling trust. =20 Just seems like lawyer speak to me. But hopefully someone will confirm = my thinking on this. =20 Thanks, James =20 =20 On Apr 25, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Richard Bajjalieh wrote: Perhaps Todd can correct me if I=92m wrong but the offer for upgrading = to 5.5 from 5 for $525 and getting CS6 for free when it=92s released meant that = you gave up right to future upgrades. Here is the graph from Adobes site = with the salient points boldfaced: =20 Offer expires May 6, 2012, at 11:59pm (PDT). VOID WHERE PROHIBITED, = TAXED, OR RESTRICTED BY LAW. Customers who purchase the most current Adobe=AE Creative Suite=AE software version, available through the online Adobe = Store or Adobe Call Center, from 12am (PDT) on March 26, 2012, through 11:59pm (PDT) on May 6, 2012, will receive a one-time upgrade to the equivalent Adobe Creative Suite 6 product (download version only) at no additional = cost when it ships publicly. Offer does not include Acrobat, Flash Catalyst, Flash Builder, Contribute, and OnLocation. Residents of embargoed = countries are not eligible. Upgrade codes and/or software will be delivered electronically to the email address associated with the qualifying = purchase. Ten days after the ship of Adobe Creative Suite 6 and no later than May = 31, 2012, at 11:59pm (PDT), customers will receive an email with = instructions and a unique promotional code to receive the one-time upgrade to the equivalent CS6 product. For select countries, customers will receive information in their Creative Suite 5.5 order confirmation email on how = to redeem the one-time upgrade to CS6. =20 Internet access is required to download and install the software = upgrade. Offer is not available retroactively and excludes future Creative Suite software version updates. Offer is subject to availability and U.S. = export control laws and laws where the recipient resides. Offer may not be assigned, exchanged, sold, transferred, or combined with any other = discount or offer, or redeemed for cash or other goods and services. Void where prohibited, taxed, or restricted by law. =20 It would be great if someone could tell me if I=92m reading this = correctly. I already made the decision to buy the upgrade to CS6 from CS5 Master Collection for the $1049 price tag since =93future upgrades=94 are not =93excluded.=94 =20 If I=92m wrong I want to see if I can cancel the order and go for the = $525 deal. =20 Anyone? =20 =20 Rich Bajjalieh =20 =20 =20 From: James Culbertson [mailto:albion@speakeasy.net]=20 Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 12:13 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 upgrade paths =20 I assume the buy CS5.5 now get CS6 for free is for full purchase not upgrades? =20 Thanks, James =20 =20 On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:57 AM, Darren Marshall wrote: Not sure whether I am grasping the new Adobe upgrade path options fully, = can someone explain the benefits of signing up to creative cloud (special = intro offer =A327.34 a month) where it states that all CS6 apps plus = additional cloud based apps can be downloaded and used, as opposed to the CS5 to = CS5.5 upgrade offer where they send CS6 as a complimentary upgrade? If all the apps are available for =A327.34 then =A346.88 (after first = year) a month then surely that is a much more cost effective option working on = the basis that there will be a CS upgrade at least once a year? =20 Best, Darren =20 --=20 -- Darren Marshall DazPix Design / Motion Graphics / Creative Direction / VFX / Production = Services =20 hello@dazpix.co.uk http://dazpix.co.uk =20 DAZPIX ON TWITTER DAZPIX FACEBOOK PAGE =20 DAZPIX GOOGLE+ PAGE =20 DAZPIX BLOG =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0292_01CD2381.8E694770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jim,

 

I hope you’re right (and = I’m wrong) but if it just ‘lawyer speak’ you would = think it would be the same in all upgrade language on Adobe’s = site. Similar language was not used for the direct (more expensive) = upgrade from CS5 to CS6 that I bought.

 

My thought was that Adobe is = trying to ease people out of the upgrade channel, into the cloud with = discounts, and 50% of is a great discount if you’re ready to move = to the cloud after one last upgrade...

 

 

 

From: James Culbertson = [mailto:albion@speakeasy.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 = 12:26 AM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: = [AE] CS6 upgrade paths

 

I called Adobe sales = to get clarification on the buy CS5.5 now for $399 and get CS6 for free. = They confirmed, and mentioned nothing about future limits to updates. I = can't imagine sales would neglect to mention this if they wanted avoid a = major uproar. Talk about disassembling = trust.

 

Just seems like lawyer speak to me. But hopefully someone = will confirm my thinking on this.

 

Thanks, James

 

 

On Apr 25, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Richard Bajjalieh = wrote:



Perhaps Todd can correct me = if I’m wrong but the offer for upgrading to 5.5 from 5 for $525 = and getting CS6 for free when it’s released meant that you gave up = right to future upgrades. Here is the graph from Adobes site with the = salient points boldfaced:

 

Offer expires May 6, 2012, = at 11:59pm (PDT). VOID WHERE PROHIBITED, TAXED, OR RESTRICTED BY LAW. = Customers who purchase the most current Adobe=AE Creative Suite=AE = software version, available through the online Adobe Store or Adobe Call = Center, from 12am (PDT) on March 26, 2012, through 11:59pm (PDT) on May = 6, 2012, will receive a one-time upgrade to the equivalent = Adobe Creative Suite 6 product (download version only) at no additional = cost when it ships publicly. Offer does not include = Acrobat, Flash Catalyst, Flash Builder, Contribute, and OnLocation. = Residents of embargoed countries are not eligible. Upgrade codes and/or = software will be delivered electronically to the email address = associated with the qualifying purchase. Ten days after the ship of = Adobe Creative Suite 6 and no later than May 31, 2012, at 11:59pm (PDT), = customers will receive an email with instructions and a unique = promotional code to receive the one-time upgrade to the equivalent CS6 = product. For select countries, customers will receive information in = their Creative Suite 5.5 order confirmation email on how to redeem the = one-time upgrade to CS6.

 

Internet access is required = to download and install the software upgrade. Offer is not available retroactively = and excludes future Creative Suite software version = updates. Offer is subject to = availability and U.S. export control laws and laws where the recipient = resides. Offer may not be assigned, exchanged, sold, transferred, or = combined with any other discount or offer, or redeemed for cash or other = goods and services. Void where prohibited, taxed, or restricted by = law.

 

It would be great if = someone could tell me if I’m reading this correctly. I already = made the decision to buy the upgrade to CS6 from CS5 Master Collection = for the $1049 price tag since “future upgrades” are not = “excluded.”

 

If I’m wrong I want = to see if I can cancel the order and go for the $525 deal.

 

Anyone?

 

 

Rich = Bajjalieh

 

 

 

From: James Culbertson [mailto:albion@speakeasy.ne= t] 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 12:13 = PM
To: After = Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 upgrade = paths

 

I assume the buy CS5.5 now get CS6 for free is for full = purchase not upgrades?

 

Thanks, James

 

 

On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:57 AM, Darren Marshall = wrote:




Not sure whether I am grasping the new Adobe upgrade path = options fully, can someone explain the benefits of signing up to = creative cloud (special intro offer =A327.34 a month) where it states = that all CS6 apps plus additional cloud based apps can be downloaded and = used, as opposed to the CS5 to CS5.5 upgrade offer where they send CS6 = as a complimentary upgrade?

If all the apps are available for =A327.34 then =A346.88 = (after first year) a month then surely that is a much more cost = effective option working on the basis that there will be a CS upgrade at = least once a year?

 

Best,

Darren

 

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Darren Marshall
DazPix
Design / Motion Graphics / = Creative Direction / VFX / Production Services

 

 

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