Return-Path: Received: from nova.lunarpages.com ([67.210.126.175] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4697029 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:32:52 +0200 Received: from 70.91.57.77-busname-panjde.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([70.91.57.77] helo=[10.1.10.41]) by nova.lunarpages.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SNOpd-0003AT-30 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:34:01 -0700 From: James WIlson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-657747627 Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 upgrade paths Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:33:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <6D35132C-BE64-41E0-B802-08AD9F00F1AF@jwmm.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - nova.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jwmm.com --Apple-Mail-8-657747627 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 This is the way that I read it as well. "not available retroactively" would mean that once CS6 is out, you cant = use the offer. "excludes future Creative Suite software version updates" would mean = CS7, 8, etc. as mentioned by Brian. On Apr 26, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Brian Maffitt wrote: > If I put on my lawyer cap, I'm reading this to say that you qualify = for an upgrade to CS6, but you DON'T qualify to skip the current upgrade = and try to use it on CS7 or CS8 instead in a couple years. >=20 > B >=20 >> I called Adobe sales to get clarification on the buy CS5.5 now for = $399 and get CS6 for free. They confirmed, and mentioned nothing about = future limits to updates. I can't imagine sales would neglect to mention = this if they wanted avoid a major uproar. Talk about disassembling = trust. >>=20 >> Just seems like lawyer speak to me. But hopefully someone will = confirm my thinking on this. >>=20 >> Thanks, James >>=20 >>=20 >> On Apr 25, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Richard Bajjalieh wrote: >>=20 >>> Perhaps Todd can correct me if I=92m wrong but the offer for = upgrading to 5.5 from 5 for $525 and getting CS6 for free when it=92s = released meant that you gave up right to future upgrades. Here is the = graph from Adobes site with the salient points boldfaced: >>> =20 >>> Offer expires May 6, 2012, at 11:59pm (PDT). VOID WHERE PROHIBITED, = TAXED, OR RESTRICTED BY LAW. Customers who purchase the most current = Adobe=AE Creative Suite=AE software version, available through the = online Adobe Store or Adobe Call Center, from 12am (PDT) on March 26, = 2012, through 11:59pm (PDT) on May 6, 2012, will receive a one-time = upgrade to the equivalent Adobe Creative Suite 6 product (download = version only) at no additional cost when it ships publicly. Offer does = not include Acrobat, Flash Catalyst, Flash Builder, Contribute, and = OnLocation. Residents of embargoed countries are not eligible. Upgrade = codes and/or software will be delivered electronically to the email = address associated with the qualifying purchase. Ten days after the ship = of Adobe Creative Suite 6 and no later than May 31, 2012, at 11:59pm = (PDT), customers will receive an email with instructions and a unique = promotional code to receive the one-time upgrade to the equivalent CS6 = product. For select countries, customers will receive information in = their Creative Suite 5.5 order confirmation email on how to redeem the = one-time upgrade to CS6. >>> =20 >>> Internet access is required to download and install the software = upgrade. Offer is not available retroactively and excludes future = Creative Suite software version updates. Offer is subject to = availability and U.S. export control laws and laws where the recipient = resides. Offer may not be assigned, exchanged, sold, transferred, or = combined with any other discount or offer, or redeemed for cash or other = goods and services. Void where prohibited, taxed, or restricted by law. >>> =20 >>> It would be great if someone could tell me if I=92m reading this = correctly. I already made the decision to buy the upgrade to CS6 from = CS5 Master Collection for the $1049 price tag since =93future upgrades=94 = are not =93excluded.=94 >>> =20 >>> If I=92m wrong I want to see if I can cancel the order and go for = the $525 deal. >>> =20 >>> Anyone? >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> Rich Bajjalieh >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> From: James Culbertson [mailto:albion@speakeasy.net]=20 >>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 12:13 PM >>> To: After Effects Mail List >>> Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 upgrade paths >>> =20 >>> I assume the buy CS5.5 now get CS6 for free is for full purchase not = upgrades? >>> =20 >>> Thanks, James >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:57 AM, Darren Marshall wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Not sure whether I am grasping the new Adobe upgrade path options = fully, can someone explain the benefits of signing up to creative cloud = (special intro offer =A327.34 a month) where it states that all CS6 apps = plus additional cloud based apps can be downloaded and used, as opposed = to the CS5 to CS5.5 upgrade offer where they send CS6 as a complimentary = upgrade? >>> If all the apps are available for =A327.34 then =A346.88 (after = first year) a month then surely that is a much more cost effective = option working on the basis that there will be a CS upgrade at least = once a year? >>> =20 >>> Best, >>> Darren >>> =20 >>> --=20 >>> -- >>> Darren Marshall >>> DazPix >>> Design / Motion Graphics / Creative Direction / VFX / Production = Services >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> hello@dazpix.co.uk >>> http://dazpix.co.uk >>>=20 >>> DAZPIX ON TWITTER >>> DAZPIX FACEBOOK PAGE >>> DAZPIX GOOGLE+ PAGE >>> DAZPIX BLOG >>>=20 >>> =20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-8-657747627 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 This = is the way that I read it as well.
"not available retroactively" = would mean that once CS6 is out, you cant use the = offer.
"excludes future Creative Suite software version = updates" would mean CS7, 8, etc. as mentioned by = Brian.

On Apr 26, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Brian = Maffitt wrote:

If I put on my = lawyer cap, I'm reading this to say that you qualify for an upgrade to = CS6, but you DON'T qualify to skip the current upgrade and try to use it = on CS7 or CS8 instead in a couple = years.

B

I called Adobe sales to = get clarification on the buy CS5.5 now for $399 and get CS6 for free. = They confirmed, and mentioned nothing about future limits to updates. I = can't imagine sales would neglect to mention this if they wanted avoid a = major uproar. Talk about disassembling = trust.

Just seems like lawyer speak to me. But = hopefully someone will confirm my thinking on = this.

Thanks, = James


On Apr 25, 2012, at 6:34 PM, = Richard Bajjalieh wrote:

Offer expires May 6, 2012, at 11:59pm (PDT). VOID = WHERE PROHIBITED, TAXED, OR RESTRICTED BY LAW. Customers who purchase = the most current Adobe=AE Creative Suite=AE software version, available = through the online Adobe Store or Adobe Call Center, from 12am (PDT) on = March 26, 2012, through 11:59pm (PDT) on May 6, 2012, will receive = a  upgrade to the equivalent Adobe Creative Suite 6 = product (download version only) at no additional cost when it ships = publicly. Offer does not include Acrobat, = Flash Catalyst, Flash Builder, Contribute, and OnLocation. Residents of = embargoed countries are not eligible. Upgrade codes and/or software will = be delivered electronically to the email address associated with the = qualifying purchase. Ten days after the ship of Adobe Creative Suite 6 = and no later than May 31, 2012, at 11:59pm (PDT), customers will receive = an email with instructions and a unique promotional code to receive the = one-time upgrade to the equivalent CS6 product. For select countries, = customers will receive information in their Creative Suite 5.5 order = confirmation email on how to redeem the one-time upgrade to = CS6.
Internet access is required to download and install = the software upgrade. Offer is = not available retroactively and . Offer is subject to = availability and U.S. export control laws and laws where the recipient = resides. Offer may not be assigned, exchanged, sold, transferred, or = combined with any other discount or offer, or redeemed for cash or other = goods and services. Void where prohibited, taxed, or restricted by = law.
It = would be great if someone could tell me if I=92m reading this correctly. = I already made the decision to buy the upgrade to CS6 from CS5 Master = Collection for the $1049 price tag since =93future upgrades=94 are not = =93excluded.=94
If = I=92m wrong I want to see if I can cancel the order and go for the $525 = deal.
Anyone?Rich Bajjalieh
 
From: James Culbertson = [mailto:albion@speakeasy.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 23, = 2012 12:13 PM
To: After Effects Mail = List
Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 upgrade = paths
I assume = the buy CS5.5 now get CS6 for free is for full purchase not = upgrades?
Thanks, = James
On Apr = 23, 2012, at 3:57 AM, Darren Marshall = wrote:
Not sure = whether I am grasping the new Adobe upgrade path options fully, can = someone explain the benefits of signing up to creative cloud (special = intro offer =A327.34 a month) where it states that all CS6 apps plus = additional cloud based apps can be downloaded and used, as opposed to = the CS5 to CS5.5 upgrade offer where they send CS6 as a complimentary = upgrade?
If all = the apps are available for =A327.34 then =A346.88 (after first year) a = month then surely that is a much more cost effective option working on = the basis that there will be a CS upgrade at least once a = year?
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Darren = Marshall
DazPix
Design / Motion Graphics / Creative Direction / = VFX / Production Services