Return-Path: Received: from mail.tctwest.net ([72.21.70.125] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4702285 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Tue, 01 May 2012 15:56:11 +0200 Received: (qmail 24473 invoked from network); 1 May 2012 13:57:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Asus3) (eelliott@tctwest.net@96.31.106.102) by magicmail-front1.tctwest.net with SMTP (974fb502-9395-11e1-86d8-005056ad0034); Tue, 01 May 2012 07:57:30 -0600 From: "Ed Elliott" To: "'After Effects Mail List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [AE] export markers to textfile with timecode Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 07:57:32 -0600 Message-ID: <00b101cd27a2$5b2b1df0$118159d0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B2_01CD2770.1090ADF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0nfXa7kBI3xZejTMu2iV7dQehN2AAFNwxQ Content-Language: en-us X-MagicMail-UUID: 974fb502-9395-11e1-86d8-005056ad0034 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01CD2770.1090ADF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert, I concur with your assessment that modifying the script to handle clip markers is more complicated that tweaking the keystrokes. In digging a little deeper, there are at least two issues: (1) a clip must be selected before the clip marker navigation commands can work and (2) there is no easy "open marker dialog box for an existing clip marker" keystroke (analogous to numpad * for sequence markers). There might be solutions to these issues but I suspect that the solutions would be a kludge (just like my entire script) and that ensuring that the script worked reliably in all cases would probably take non-trivial effort. Lloyd's AE script would definitely be a better alternative. This issue of summarizing the marker data has popped up over the years. IMHO, the solution lies with Adobe and the solution is not just to export the data but to provide the capability to both view and edit marker data within Premiere and AE. Audition CS5.5 has a Markers window with view and edit capability (but no export capability that I am aware of) so why don't two of Adobe's flagship products have something similar? Even my ancient versions of Audition and Soundforge have Markers windows. This is not a new concept. I realize that Adobe must make decisions balancing customer wish lists, costs, and potential sales, but this capability seems so basic and, when needed, users struggle to find a solution. And third-party solutions vary in capability, quality/fragility (e.g., my kludge), and level of support. BTW, while revisiting this topic I discovered that an alternative to my sequence marker script for Premiere is to select a Premiere sequence > Edit > Edit in Adobe Audition > Sequence .> OK, then within Audition > Window > Markers. (My testing indicates that Premiere clip markers do not appear in the Audition Marker window.) My script remains the better choice, I believe, if the sequence markers need to be exported or if the user wants to quickly view the sequence markers for multiple sequences in the Premiere timeline. But the Audition alternative may be the only solution for Apple users who want a summary of their Premiere sequence markers. And the Audition alternative does not require downloading/installing/learning. Ed From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Robert Kjettrup Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 3:33 AM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] export markers to textfile with timecode Hi Ed Thanks for that script, that is very useful in this project. I would have liked it to export clip markers since that is what is copied over from AE to Premiere, but when trying to modify the script to cycle through clipmarkers i failed totally, it sadly wasn't as easy as modifying it from crtl+arrow to crtl+shit+arrow :-) But it is quite easy to manually cycle through a clip an placing seqence markers (numpad *) so it works. now i just have to do the 22 og 32 remaining clips... Thanks again. Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday Mobil: 25 18 95 16 Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk 2012/5/1 Ed Elliott Robert, Given your query for a script which does both layer and comp markers, I should have mentioned that my script only does sequence markers, not clip markers. I never had a need to export the data for clip markers so I have never explored whether clip markers might present any special issues. Hopefully, it would just be a matter of tweaking the keystrokes sent to Premiere (e.g., Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow instead of Ctrl+RightArrow). If the keystroke differences are the only issue, there are two alternatives: (1) make a separate version of script just for clip markers (this is probably the easiest) or (2) modify the script to iterate through each sequence twice (once looking for sequence markers and once looking for clip markers). Regardless of which alternative is chosen, the output is broken into sequence markers and clip markers, rather than being in time sequence regardless of the type of marker. Ed From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Ed Elliott Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:55 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] export markers to textfile with timecode If you have Premiere on a Windows PC, you could try the AutoHotKey script which I wrote: http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/3/919345 There are at least a few people using it. If you are running a non-English version of Premiere, the script may need a minor tweak (because it looks for the word "Marker"). The script already contains an example of the change required for the French version of Premiere, so you may be able to make the tweak yourself. But I should be able to make the change easily if you send me a screen print of a Premiere Marker dialog box. Ed Elliott From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Robert Kjettrup Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:50 AM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: [AE] export markers to textfile with timecode Hi Is there some script that exports layers/comp markers to a simple textfile with timecode? Either directly from AE or via Premiere? i have search a little and i can't find anything that does it as a simple plain textfile. The closest i have found is an old premiere plugin that doesn't seem to work with CS5.5 (http://www.2writers.com/Eddie/PpExpMark.htm) Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday Mobil: 25 18 95 16 Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01CD2770.1090ADF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Robert,

 

I concur with your assessment that modifying the script to handle = clip markers is more complicated that tweaking the keystrokes.  In = digging a little deeper, there are at least two issues: (1) a clip must = be selected before the clip marker navigation commands can work and (2) = there is no easy “open marker dialog box for an existing clip = marker” keystroke (analogous to numpad * for sequence = markers).  There might be solutions to these issues but I suspect = that the solutions would be a kludge (just like my entire script) and = that ensuring that the script worked reliably in all cases would = probably take non-trivial effort.  Lloyd’s AE script would = definitely be a better alternative.

 

This issue of summarizing the marker data has popped up over the = years.  IMHO, the solution lies with Adobe and the solution is not = just to export the data but to provide the capability to both view and = edit marker data within Premiere and AE.  Audition CS5.5 has a = Markers window with view and edit capability (but no export capability = that I am aware of) so why don’t two of Adobe’s flagship = products have something similar?  Even my ancient versions of = Audition and Soundforge have Markers windows.  This is not a new = concept.  I realize that Adobe must make decisions balancing = customer wish lists, costs, and potential sales, but this capability = seems so basic and, when needed, users struggle to find a = solution.  And third-party solutions vary in capability, = quality/fragility (e.g., my kludge), and level of = support.

 

BTW, while revisiting this topic I discovered that an alternative to = my sequence marker script for Premiere is to select a Premiere sequence = > Edit > Edit in Adobe Audition > Sequence …> OK, then = within Audition > Window > Markers.  (My testing indicates = that Premiere clip markers do not appear in the Audition Marker window.) =  My script remains the better choice, I believe, if the sequence = markers need to be exported or if the user wants to quickly view the = sequence markers for multiple sequences in the Premiere timeline.  = But the Audition alternative may be the only solution for Apple users = who want a summary of their Premiere sequence markers.  And the = Audition alternative does not require = downloading/installing/learning.

 

Ed

 

From:= = After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of = Robert Kjettrup
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 3:33 = AM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] = export markers to textfile with timecode

 

Hi = Ed

 

Thanks for that script, that is very useful in this = project. I would have liked it to export clip markers since that is what = is copied over from AE to Premiere, but when trying to modify the script = to cycle through clipmarkers i failed totally, it sadly wasn't as easy = as modifying it from crtl+arrow to crtl+shit+arrow = :-)

But it is quite easy = to manually cycle through a clip an placing seqence markers (numpad *) = so it works. now i just have to do the 22 og = 32 remaining clips...

 

Thanks again.

 

Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV = Mayday
Mobil: 25 18 95 16
Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk

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2012/5/1 Ed Elliott <eelliott@tritel.net>

Robert,

 

Given your query for a script which does both layer and comp markers, = I should have mentioned that my script only does sequence markers, not = clip markers.

 

I never had a need to export the data for clip markers so I have = never explored whether clip markers might present any special = issues.  Hopefully, it would just be a matter of tweaking the = keystrokes sent to Premiere (e.g.,  Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow instead = of Ctrl+RightArrow).   If the keystroke differences are the = only issue, there are two alternatives: (1) make a separate version of = script just for clip markers (this is probably the easiest) or (2) = modify the script to iterate through each sequence twice (once looking = for sequence markers and once looking for clip markers).  = Regardless of which alternative is chosen, the output is broken into = sequence markers and clip markers, rather than being in time sequence = regardless of the type of marker.

 

Ed

 

From:= = After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Ed = Elliott
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:55 = PM


To: After = Effects Mail List

Subject: Re: [AE] export markers to textfile = with timecode

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If you have Premiere on a Windows PC, you could try the AutoHotKey = script which I wrote: http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/3/919345

 

There are at least a few people using it.

 

If you are running a non-English version of Premiere, the script may = need a minor tweak (because it looks for the word “Marker”). =  The script already contains an example of the change required for = the French version of Premiere, so you may be able to make the tweak = yourself.  But I should be able to make the change easily if you = send me a screen print of a Premiere Marker dialog = box.

 

Ed Elliott

 

From:= = After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of = Robert Kjettrup
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:50 = AM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: [AE] export = markers to textfile with timecode

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Hi

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Is there = some script that exports layers/comp markers to a simple textfile with = timecode? Either directly from AE or via = Premiere?

 <= /o:p>

i have = search a little and i can't find anything that does it as a simple plain = textfile. The closest i have found is an old premiere plugin that = doesn't seem to work with CS5.5 (http://www.2writers.com/Eddie/PpExpMark.htm)

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Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday
Mobil: 25 18 95 = 16
Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk

 

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