Return-Path: Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net ([207.145.128.243] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4716669 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 16 May 2012 22:50:23 +0200 Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36559A70BEE for ; Wed, 16 May 2012 16:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20490 invoked from network); 16 May 2012 20:52:11 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 10927, pid: 31572, t: 1.5208s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from c-67-185-28-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (HELO [192.168.1.125]) (albion@[67.185.28.214]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 May 2012 20:52:10 -0000 From: James Culbertson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-264560471 Subject: Re: [AE] RAM Preview and client-supervised sessions? Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 13:52:09 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <34BFE5B9-E169-42EA-9C87-6DD172D8C42C@speakeasy.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail3.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=8.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 --Apple-Mail-4-264560471 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii But in that scenario it does pop to the beginning (since it is on the = last frame of the work area) before the RAM playback begins. Production = artists take this for granted (I assume), but many clients get confused = by this. James On May 16, 2012, at 1:43 PM, rendernyc wrote: > if you are previewing the work area just hit shift end, then 0 to = preview and it wont pop >=20 > but i agree, i would like a few more options in preview like play once = but reverse, and also to add black, or color/frame of yoru choice, on = the head/tail, start/end frame so that you start and end without pops >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM, James Culbertson = wrote: > That's what I am talking about. The fact that it pops back to the = original playhead position once done playing once (or initially pops = from the playhead before starting) is confusing to many clients. >=20 > For instance, yesterday I was working with a client on a series of 5 = seconds animations. I had to place the playhead at the beginning of the = timeline to show the client the first part of the animation via RAM = preview. Then place the playhead at the end of the timeline to show the = client the end of the animation via RAM preview. What would be helpful = is an option to play from beginning to end without popping to or from = the initial playhead position. >=20 > Of course I could just render the animation out to Quicktime and = playback that way. But it wastes time. >=20 > James >=20 >=20 > On May 16, 2012, at 12:11 PM, rendernyc wrote: >=20 >> go to your previews panel and toggle from loop to ping pong to PLAY = ONCE :) >>=20 >>=20 >> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM, James Culbertson = wrote: >> Anyone else think some kind of RAM rendering indicator for = clients-supervised sessions would be useful? With a preference to turn = it off of course. The info box indicator seems too subtle for clients. = And they seem to constantly get confused about what is rendering and = what is not. I start to feel like a parrot. >>=20 >> With reference to non-looping RAM preview playback: even if you have = the playhead at the beginning, the playhead pops back to the beginning = at the end of the preview. This behavior is fine for me most of the = time. But it often confuses clients. Would be nice to have a checkbox = to have the playhead start at the beginning and stop at the ending of = the work area. >>=20 >> Or is it just my clients? >>=20 >> James >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> danny princz >>=20 >> exposedideas.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > danny princz >=20 > exposedideas.com --Apple-Mail-4-264560471 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
But in that scenario it does pop to the beginning (since it is on the last frame of the work area) before the RAM playback begins. Production artists take this for granted (I assume), but many clients get confused by this.

James


On May 16, 2012, at 1:43 PM, rendernyc wrote:

if you are previewing the work area just hit shift end, then 0 to preview and it wont pop

but i agree, i would like a few more options in preview like play once but reverse, and also to add black, or color/frame of yoru choice, on the head/tail, start/end frame so that you start and end without pops



On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM, James Culbertson <albion@speakeasy.net> wrote:
That's what I am talking about. The fact that it pops back to the original playhead position once done playing once (or initially pops from the playhead before starting) is confusing to many clients.

For instance, yesterday I was working with a client on a series of 5 seconds animations. I had to place the playhead at the beginning of the timeline to show the client the first part of the animation via RAM preview. Then place the playhead at the end of the timeline to show the client the end of the animation via RAM preview. What would be helpful is an option to play from beginning to end without popping to or from the initial playhead position.

Of course I could just render the animation out to Quicktime and playback that way. But it wastes time.

James


On May 16, 2012, at 12:11 PM, rendernyc wrote:

go to your previews panel and toggle from loop to ping pong to PLAY ONCE :)


On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM, James Culbertson <albion@speakeasy.net> wrote:
Anyone else think some kind of RAM rendering indicator for clients-supervised sessions would be useful?  With a preference to turn it off of course.  The info box indicator seems too subtle for clients.  And they seem to constantly get confused about what is rendering and what is not. I start to feel like a parrot.

With reference to non-looping RAM preview playback: even if you have the playhead at the beginning, the playhead pops back to the beginning at the end of the preview. This behavior is fine for me most of the time.  But it often confuses clients.  Would be nice to have a checkbox to have the playhead start at the beginning and stop at the ending of the work area.

Or is it just my clients?

James



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