Return-Path: Received: from gateway02.websitewelcome.com ([69.56.216.20] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4719065 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 18 May 2012 17:10:28 +0200 Received: by gateway02.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 881D364A7F28D; Fri, 18 May 2012 10:12:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ham02.websitewelcome.com (unknown [173.192.111.51]) by gateway02.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3F764A7F259 for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 10:12:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: by ham02.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 666) id 7A9275CFEC657; Fri, 18 May 2012 10:12:21 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ham02.websitewelcome.com X-Spam-Flag2999: NO X-Spam-Level2999: X-Spam-Status2999: "No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from alpina.websitewelcome.com (alpina.websitewelcome.com [74.54.176.2]) by ham02.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57155CFEC524 for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 10:12:20 -0500 (CDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=crishdesign.com; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-BWhitelist:X-Source:X-Source-Args:X-Source-Dir:X-Source-Sender:X-Source-Auth:X-Email-Count:X-Source-Cap; b=gV3ap9C34YOgN/cAWm4kB6VfFgzeBKrrkMfhWMsEa94WfkuBZHPxsfU1PZxGstcSuR2VGF81vluYLVjnIUZb2m08g7cwr+aCs+vdel/qtx/LWDwtnW5a9Mp3YTQK9oCY; Received: from [199.21.106.95] (port=49523 helo=[192.168.0.7]) by alpina.websitewelcome.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SVOqq-0000Cw-8h for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 18 May 2012 10:12:20 -0500 From: Chris Meyer Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7B88EADC-47A7-4DE6-B930-AD91CE6D9CFC" Subject: Re: [AE] Clear disk cache based on a project ? Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 09:12:19 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <77188F43-BED5-41DB-90E7-81C99106A6DB@crishdesign.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - alpina.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crishdesign.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.168.0.7]) [199.21.106.95]:49523 X-Source-Auth: chris@crishdesign.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7YWxwaW5hLndlYnNpdGV3ZWxjb21lLmNvbQ== --Apple-Mail=_7B88EADC-47A7-4DE6-B930-AD91CE6D9CFC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The thread others in Adobe pointed me to on this issue is here: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/662972=20 The advice there is Premiere-centric, but in short, for 3 drives, one = for OS and programs, one for media and projects, and the SSD for = previews, cache, and exports. Four drives is preferred, with 2 of them in a RAID 0. Then the advice is = a solo drive for OS and programs, the SSD for cache, and the RAID for = media, projects, previews, and exports. Regardless, SSD for caches.=20 If you were going 3 drives, and almost exclusively AE, your first choice = for configuration was good, as AE is more serial in nature than = Premiere.=20 - Chris =20 On May 17, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Robert Houghton wrote: > Primarily After Effects although I have been working more Premiere Pro = into my workflow as of late. I will be adding a GTX580 to the system = which helps both applications. >=20 > -Rob > ------------------- > Robert Houghton > Houghton Media > Motion Graphics, Compositing, Animation > www.houghtonmedia.com >=20 > On 5/17/2012 9:28 PM, Chris Meyer wrote: >>=20 >> When you say "for CS6", are you talking just After Effects, or = multiple programs in the suite?=20 >>=20 >> - Chris >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On May 17, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Robert Houghton wrote: >>=20 >>> So what would be the ideal arrangement for CS6 then if there were 2 = 7200rpm drives and one 120GB SSD? >>>=20 >>> SSD System disc/Cache >>> 2x 7200 HDD Raid 0 for Media? >>>=20 >>> or >>>=20 >>> 7200 HDD for System >>> SSD all by itself for cache >>> 7200 HDD for media? >>>=20 >>> Or would it be worth it to buy a fourth drive (either SSD or 7200rpm = drive) The former for System and the latter for striping with the other = 7200rpm drive for media? >>>=20 >>> -Rob >>> ------------------- >>> Robert Houghton >>> Houghton Media >>> Motion Graphics, Compositing, Animation >>> www.houghtonmedia.com >>>=20 >>> On 5/17/2012 5:41 PM, Brian Higgins wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Agreed. You might be able to scrub around a little more smoothly, = but I'd skip it unless you're doing stereo 4K work or something = similarly bandwidth intensive. =20 >>>>=20 >>>> -bH >>>>=20 >>>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Dan Ramirez = wrote: >>>> A single 6g SSD is orders of magnitude faster than a comparable = 7200rpm drive. I'd skip RAID, but I tend to avoid complexity when I can. >>>>=20 >>>> On May 17, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Carey Dissmore = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> > I'm starting to spec out a new machine and an SSD for the cache = is definitely in order. It'll be 6G SATA-connected at minimum, but I'm = actually considering perhaps RAID-0 stripe of two 6G SSD's to improve = performance and reduce latency all-the-more. Anyone have any thoughts on = how much of a difference that would make in AE? Worth doing? Assume = fully modern mobo/chipset machine. >>>> > >>>> > carey >>>> > >>>> > On May 17, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Rendernyc wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> You can set your disk cache to a folder for each project but = would have to change this manually when u switch projects in = the prefs. >>>> >> >>>> >> The cache will clear itself out when it starts getting full = based on age >>>> >> >>>> >> Just remember the cache files aren't project dependent. If you = have a comp that is cached in multiple aep's it uses the single cached = frames for all. >>>> >> >>>> >> On May 17, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Michael Malone = wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> The new persistent disk cache is super awesome and will only = get better when I get a dedicated SSD. One thing that would make it even = better is the ability to clear the cache based on a particular project. = I'm always juggling several projects at once and when I finish one I = would like to clear the cache of that project. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Although, I guess it isn't that important as the old stuff will = get flushed as new stuff happens. Still might be handy. 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The advice there is Premiere-centric, but in short, for 3 drives, one for OS and programs, one for media and projects, and the SSD for previews, cache, and exports.

Four drives is preferred, with 2 of them in a RAID 0. Then the advice is a solo drive for OS and programs, the SSD for cache, and the RAID for media, projects, previews, and exports.

Regardless, SSD for caches. 

If you were going 3 drives, and almost exclusively AE, your first choice for configuration was good, as AE is more serial in nature than Premiere. 

 - Chris

   
On May 17, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Robert Houghton wrote:

Primarily After Effects although I have been working more Premiere Pro into my workflow as of late. I will be adding a GTX580 to the system which helps both applications.

    -Rob
 
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Robert Houghton
Houghton Media
Motion Graphics, Compositing, Animation
www.houghtonmedia.com

On 5/17/2012 9:28 PM, Chris Meyer wrote:
When you say "for CS6", are you talking just After Effects, or multiple programs in the suite? 

 - Chris



On May 17, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Robert Houghton wrote:

So what would be the ideal arrangement for CS6 then if there were 2 7200rpm drives and one 120GB SSD?

SSD System disc/Cache
2x 7200 HDD Raid 0 for Media?

or

7200 HDD for System
SSD all by itself for cache
7200 HDD for media?

Or would it be worth it to buy a fourth drive (either SSD or 7200rpm drive) The former for System and the latter for striping with the other 7200rpm drive for media?

    -Rob
 
-------------------
Robert Houghton
Houghton Media
Motion Graphics, Compositing, Animation
www.houghtonmedia.com

On 5/17/2012 5:41 PM, Brian Higgins wrote:
Agreed.  You might be able to scrub around a little more smoothly, but I'd skip it unless you're doing stereo 4K work or something similarly bandwidth intensive.  

-bH

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Dan Ramirez <ramirezdan@gmail.com> wrote:
A single 6g SSD is orders of magnitude faster than a comparable 7200rpm drive. I'd skip RAID, but I tend to avoid complexity when I can.

On May 17, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Carey Dissmore <carey@imugonline.com> wrote:

> I'm starting to spec out a new machine and an SSD for the cache is definitely in order. It'll be 6G SATA-connected at minimum, but I'm actually considering perhaps RAID-0 stripe of two 6G SSD's to improve performance and reduce latency all-the-more. Anyone have any thoughts on how much of a difference that would make in AE? Worth doing? Assume fully modern mobo/chipset machine.
>
> carey
>
> On May 17, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Rendernyc wrote:
>
>> You can set your disk cache to a folder for each project but would have to change this manually when u switch projects in the prefs.
>>
>> The cache will clear itself out when it starts getting full based on age
>>
>> Just remember the cache files aren't project dependent. If you have a comp that is cached in multiple aep's it uses the single cached frames for all.
>>
>> On May 17, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Michael Malone <mmalone@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The new persistent disk cache is super awesome and will only get better when I get a dedicated SSD. One thing that would make it even better is the ability to clear the cache based on a particular project. I'm always juggling several projects at once and when I finish one I would like to clear the cache of that project.
>>>
>>> Although, I guess it isn't that important as the old stuff will get flushed as new stuff happens. Still might be handy. I wonder if that kind of thing is scriptable?
>>>
>>> mike
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