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[98.246.188.32]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tx9sm13161778pbc.10.2012.05.18.08.42.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 May 2012 08:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FB66DC2.4030900@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 08:41:54 -0700 From: Robert Houghton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: After Effects Mail List CC: Chris Meyer Subject: Re: [AE] Clear disk cache based on a project ? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050404040007020505090102" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050404040007020505090102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was leaning towards no 1 myself. I do editing about 10% of the time so that would make sense. The only downside is that I will have to keep that system drive lean and clean since space is so limited on SSDs. The one I'm getting will be about 120GB decisions, decisions. Thanks for the insight Chris. -Rob ------------------- Robert Houghton Houghton Media Motion Graphics, Compositing, Animation www.houghtonmedia.com On 5/18/2012 8:12 AM, Chris Meyer wrote: > The thread others in Adobe pointed me to on this issue is here: > > http://forums.adobe.com/thread/662972 > > The advice there is Premiere-centric, but in short, for 3 drives, one > for OS and programs, one for media and projects, and the SSD for > previews, cache, and exports. > > Four drives is preferred, with 2 of them in a RAID 0. Then the advice > is a solo drive for OS and programs, the SSD for cache, and the RAID > for media, projects, previews, and exports. > > Regardless, SSD for caches. > > If you were going 3 drives, and almost exclusively AE, your first > choice for configuration was good, as AE is more serial in nature than > Premiere. > > - Chris > > > On May 17, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Robert Houghton wrote: > >> Primarily After Effects although I have been working more Premiere >> Pro into my workflow as of late. I will be adding a GTX580 to the >> system which helps both applications. >> >> -Rob >> ------------------- >> Robert Houghton >> Houghton Media >> Motion Graphics, Compositing, Animation >> www.houghtonmedia.com >> >> On 5/17/2012 9:28 PM, Chris Meyer wrote: >>> When you say "for CS6", are you talking just After Effects, or >>> multiple programs in the suite? >>> >>> - Chris >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 17, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Robert Houghton wrote: >>> >>>> So what would be the ideal arrangement for CS6 then if there were 2 >>>> 7200rpm drives and one 120GB SSD? >>>> >>>> SSD System disc/Cache >>>> 2x 7200 HDD Raid 0 for Media? >>>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> 7200 HDD for System >>>> SSD all by itself for cache >>>> 7200 HDD for media? >>>> >>>> Or would it be worth it to buy a fourth drive (either SSD or >>>> 7200rpm drive) The former for System and the latter for striping >>>> with the other 7200rpm drive for media? >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>> ------------------- >>>> Robert Houghton >>>> Houghton Media >>>> Motion Graphics, Compositing, Animation >>>> www.houghtonmedia.com >>>> >>>> On 5/17/2012 5:41 PM, Brian Higgins wrote: >>>>> Agreed. You might be able to scrub around a little more smoothly, >>>>> but I'd skip it unless you're doing stereo 4K work or something >>>>> similarly bandwidth intensive. >>>>> >>>>> -bH >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Dan Ramirez >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A single 6g SSD is orders of magnitude faster than a >>>>> comparable 7200rpm drive. I'd skip RAID, but I tend to avoid >>>>> complexity when I can. >>>>> >>>>> On May 17, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Carey Dissmore >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > I'm starting to spec out a new machine and an SSD for the >>>>> cache is definitely in order. It'll be 6G SATA-connected at >>>>> minimum, but I'm actually considering perhaps RAID-0 stripe of >>>>> two 6G SSD's to improve performance and reduce latency >>>>> all-the-more. Anyone have any thoughts on how much of a >>>>> difference that would make in AE? Worth doing? Assume fully >>>>> modern mobo/chipset machine. >>>>> > >>>>> > carey >>>>> > >>>>> > On May 17, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Rendernyc wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> You can set your disk cache to a folder for each project >>>>> but would have to change this manually when u switch projects >>>>> in the prefs. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The cache will clear itself out when it starts getting full >>>>> based on age >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Just remember the cache files aren't project dependent. If >>>>> you have a comp that is cached in multiple aep's it uses the >>>>> single cached frames for all. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On May 17, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Michael Malone >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> The new persistent disk cache is super awesome and will >>>>> only get better when I get a dedicated SSD. One thing that >>>>> would make it even better is the ability to clear the cache >>>>> based on a particular project. I'm always juggling several >>>>> projects at once and when I finish one I would like to clear >>>>> the cache of that project. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Although, I guess it isn't that important as the old stuff >>>>> will get flushed as new stuff happens. Still might be handy. I >>>>> wonder if that kind of thing is scriptable? >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> mike >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>>>> >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> +---End of message---+ >>>>> >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > +---End of message---+ >>>>> > To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> brian higgins | senior vfx artist >>>>> Sol Design >>>>> 312.706.5500 >>>>> higgins@soldesignfx.com >>>>> soldesignfx.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> > --------------050404040007020505090102 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was leaning towards no 1 myself. I do editing about 10% of the time so that would make sense. The only downside is that I will have to keep that system drive lean and clean since space is so limited on SSDs. The one I'm getting will be about 120GB decisions, decisions. Thanks for the insight Chris.

    -Rob
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Robert Houghton
Houghton Media
Motion Graphics, Compositing, Animation
www.houghtonmedia.com

On 5/18/2012 8:12 AM, Chris Meyer wrote:
The thread others in Adobe pointed me to on this issue is here:


The advice there is Premiere-centric, but in short, for 3 drives, one for OS and programs, one for media and projects, and the SSD for previews, cache, and exports.

Four drives is preferred, with 2 of them in a RAID 0. Then the advice is a solo drive for OS and programs, the SSD for cache, and the RAID for media, projects, previews, and exports.

Regardless, SSD for caches. 

If you were going 3 drives, and almost exclusively AE, your first choice for configuration was good, as AE is more serial in nature than Premiere. 

 - Chris

   
On May 17, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Robert Houghton wrote:

Primarily After Effects although I have been working more Premiere Pro into my workflow as of late. I will be adding a GTX580 to the system which helps both applications.

    -Rob
 
-------------------
Robert Houghton
Houghton Media
Motion Graphics, Compositing, Animation
www.houghtonmedia.com

On 5/17/2012 9:28 PM, Chris Meyer wrote:
When you say "for CS6", are you talking just After Effects, or multiple programs in the suite? 

 - Chris



On May 17, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Robert Houghton wrote:

So what would be the ideal arrangement for CS6 then if there were 2 7200rpm drives and one 120GB SSD?

SSD System disc/Cache
2x 7200 HDD Raid 0 for Media?

or

7200 HDD for System
SSD all by itself for cache
7200 HDD for media?

Or would it be worth it to buy a fourth drive (either SSD or 7200rpm drive) The former for System and the latter for striping with the other 7200rpm drive for media?

    -Rob
 
-------------------
Robert Houghton
Houghton Media
Motion Graphics, Compositing, Animation
www.houghtonmedia.com

On 5/17/2012 5:41 PM, Brian Higgins wrote:
Agreed.  You might be able to scrub around a little more smoothly, but I'd skip it unless you're doing stereo 4K work or something similarly bandwidth intensive.  

-bH

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Dan Ramirez <ramirezdan@gmail.com> wrote:
A single 6g SSD is orders of magnitude faster than a comparable 7200rpm drive. I'd skip RAID, but I tend to avoid complexity when I can.

On May 17, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Carey Dissmore <carey@imugonline.com> wrote:

> I'm starting to spec out a new machine and an SSD for the cache is definitely in order. It'll be 6G SATA-connected at minimum, but I'm actually considering perhaps RAID-0 stripe of two 6G SSD's to improve performance and reduce latency all-the-more. Anyone have any thoughts on how much of a difference that would make in AE? Worth doing? Assume fully modern mobo/chipset machine.
>
> carey
>
> On May 17, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Rendernyc wrote:
>
>> You can set your disk cache to a folder for each project but would have to change this manually when u switch projects in the prefs.
>>
>> The cache will clear itself out when it starts getting full based on age
>>
>> Just remember the cache files aren't project dependent. If you have a comp that is cached in multiple aep's it uses the single cached frames for all.
>>
>> On May 17, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Michael Malone <mmalone@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The new persistent disk cache is super awesome and will only get better when I get a dedicated SSD. One thing that would make it even better is the ability to clear the cache based on a particular project. I'm always juggling several projects at once and when I finish one I would like to clear the cache of that project.
>>>
>>> Although, I guess it isn't that important as the old stuff will get flushed as new stuff happens. Still might be handy. I wonder if that kind of thing is scriptable?
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
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