Return-Path: Received: from nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.226] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4723747 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Thu, 24 May 2012 18:43:48 +0200 Received: from [98.139.91.67] by nm24.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 May 2012 16:45:52 -0000 Received: from [68.142.194.244] by tm7.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 May 2012 16:45:52 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.106] by t2.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 May 2012 16:45:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 May 2012 16:45:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 149491.97877.bm@omp1011.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 1215 invoked from network); 24 May 2012 16:45:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1337877952; bh=c5NBcKVFqF8lY/IXyryEoxAqgz800UxLHsaxqcc+wsk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=aiWuwJgDVHRpW0esbjp6tIYBHyNnLDJrgqNdv6TV9E6+AHYQoquMpbaMJKKIS88HeT7OlgzJdh7qLNUMEjF43hiMK6qGpBxewfinHdlfPoMr40DfZunRZE7YDx2sWoXGqF3/vHU55u93CfZRJbzvAF3h6ltOpvk3nVBX+y81Y98= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: VrKMJKYVM1kAAqCn5uiv8it8hW6R7CmO31Tr_82rymT.1RR w4MqPjLmJdSmxLU0_TctLuFSE.ehqgZCgnzn8_J5VYbjwCmLPvbikrXrfc9g q_XcCsRS_dhLs6aYWV721bJx7gtMGebobNwCSozcqjUGI_atHlqrlEB33xQK .1b35Fwsb8Mn6HSZzeLUTCwET31Mh2G_Xhc8lGanprrCJw69Q62PBGo2tuFD zWr4VVcPEBAQmXcXnzm2_cpDvUgXKgQqphY0iRWIbA_yYD4UHFGwDmZJr.rz 14KPXzx_s4GbwBDAWlJXy.Cu31OMX_XcRRFHG9QDuDyPd7BKTrCmx9DHy.Ou G.uOQlxaUTOLOp4WWLyWOGSSjGNYhN.Sf89pSfzNGlOtJpMvGyt6HN.SAwm5 58bP1pFo4RjmtZGX.mXuhLCJUcUyM5drIkwgExJGVwCER8ebSdqEX.5fIH0h MBKQy1wawate70x52xhpnsNnGqbMZsV2xUpJFoVfV3aqQFxCCe83G7woflVb 8 X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cx2nwAuswBAkr.BmYsq81b_UbFCK2u9L1iyckNPlBA-- Received: from [192.168.1.68] (jpcurtis@99.152.153.100 with plain) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 May 2012 09:45:51 -0700 PDT From: Jim Curtis Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-17-940981889 Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Workstation UPS Recommendations Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 11:45:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: After Effects Mail List References: Message-Id: <4A7C345A-5E04-4E9E-B3DB-4C4FCB781949@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-17-940981889 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 My location is susceptible to brown-outs, mostly in the summer during = peak-loads, and during thunderstorms.=20 I have three of the largest APC units on my main workstation: one = dedicated to my RAID, and one for each MacPro (2) that also share surge = and battery backup for my monitors, hubs, etc. I put my speakers and = mixer on surge outlets only. Get the largest one. They're not that more expensive than the smaller = ones. The backup time available depends on how much you load it. FYI, the batteries are replaceable. You'll probably have to replace = every couple of years. Some people just buy a new unit when the = batteries go bad (There's a warning signal.). There's a Batteries Plus = a few miles from me, with batteries in stock, and they will recycle your = old batteries for free. My understanding is that UPS don't just provide spare power, they also = condition the power coming out of your outlet. This is as important as = backup and surge protection, especially if the voltage coming in is = sub-par. Not much can protect you from a lightning strike near you. If the power = can travel from 10,000 feet down to the ground, through the air, a puny = fuse ain't going to do jack to help you. Which reminds me... a recent thunderstorm took out all the ethernet = switches and routers in my home office, but nothing else. My U-verse = "brain" and my two gigabit switches got zapped. I considered this = nothing less than a miracle on the order of Lourdes. I must be a = farghing saint. On May 24, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > oh yeah, also this. The $200 one I suggested is ultra-low-end, = especially for that voltage. good ones with similar specs (like APC) are = around $400 and up, and that's still for one minute of protection. To be = honest, I've stopped even bothering with UPS's and just got excellent = surge protectors. What with auto-save and backups I haven't had a = disaster yet...=20 >=20 > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > My recommendation is to only consider APC. I had a Belkin once. = Once. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On May 24, 2012, at 10:44 AM, James WIlson wrote: >=20 > > I just upgraded my workstation from a quad core to a 12 core = recently and now my UPS keeps overloading during renders. The box is = maxed out, plus I've got external drives and dual monitors running off = of it. > > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a reliable UPS that doesn't = cost an arm and leg that can handle the draw that's being created during = renders? > > Or, if anyone has a resource where I could get some info that's not = too technically deep =96 I don't want an excursion into becoming a UPS = expert. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jim > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn >=20 --Apple-Mail-17-940981889 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 My = location is susceptible to brown-outs, mostly in the summer during = peak-loads, and during thunderstorms. 

I = have three of the largest APC units on my main workstation: one = dedicated to my RAID, and one for each MacPro (2) that also share surge = and battery backup for my monitors, hubs, etc.  I put my speakers = and mixer on surge outlets only.

Get the largest one. =  They're not that more expensive than the smaller ones.  The = backup time available depends on how much you load = it.

FYI, the batteries are replaceable. =  You'll probably have to replace every couple of years.  Some = people just buy a new unit when the batteries go bad (There's a warning = signal.).  There's a Batteries Plus a few miles from me, with = batteries in stock, and they will recycle your old batteries for = free.

My understanding is that UPS don't = just provide spare power, they also condition the power coming out of = your outlet.  This is as important as backup and surge protection, = especially if the voltage coming in is = sub-par.

Not much can protect you from a = lightning strike near you.  If the power can travel from 10,000 = feet down to the ground, through the air, a puny fuse ain't going to do = jack to help you.

Which reminds me... a recent = thunderstorm took out all the ethernet switches and routers in my home = office, but nothing else.  My U-verse "brain" and my two gigabit = switches got zapped.  I considered this nothing less than a miracle = on the order of Lourdes.  I must be a farghing = saint.



On May 24, = 2012, at 11:16 AM, Teddy Gage wrote:

oh yeah, = also this. The $200 one I suggested is ultra-low-end, especially for = that voltage. good ones with similar specs (like APC) are around $400 = and up, and that's still for one minute of protection. To be honest, = I've stopped even bothering with UPS's and just got excellent surge = protectors. What with auto-save and backups I haven't had a disaster = yet...

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Jim = Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
My recommendation is to only consider APC.  I had a Belkin once. =  Once.



On May 24, 2012, at 10:44 AM, James WIlson wrote:

> I just upgraded my workstation from a quad core to a 12 core = recently and now my UPS keeps overloading during renders. The box is = maxed out, plus I've got external drives and dual monitors running off = of it.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a reliable UPS that = doesn't cost an arm and leg that can handle the draw that's being = created during renders?
> Or, if anyone has a resource where I could get some info that's not = too technically deep =96 I don't want an excursion into becoming a UPS = expert.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
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