Return-Path: Received: from nm7-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.167] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4734433 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:32:28 +0200 Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2012 13:34:52 -0000 Received: from [209.191.108.97] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2012 13:34:52 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.116] by t4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2012 13:34:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2012 13:34:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 503296.7730.bm@omp1021.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 99485 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2012 13:34:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1338816892; bh=+/TsBLxFm/3c4z/4jEfbXjw2GGEPSmZqlGV5ccumi8k=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=gVUDkjCm1DsXddtFTqjFL3I2hHdRplIE6Lr17rlug5Y8M/Axm/xXpy6uVfboENumP9Op/kw3LztMHA+zmpg1XBxFU5M5QmIJtbEl8sD3WMGZZKd1ep28RSNoOTvK9r2LwJ9Ex1L4zz5G/+/cz0ydcl9+p/h+t98ZQFN3k15FQ90= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: K35kKtcVM1nizlcnweo55rD9IvQlc4VjO01fu46sKmr3dtk o7Dik4TlT7MwigateTxqU2cHtH_2fSC7sHPJZgQxAoEAaNbM3rtybXhCwLMC 1Ex3dK.hgrJdc4kdn2jK9FxIdjOYqt6bHEBAcj4rQIt86WPRG0UE1WyRJYrf rjOrrOrARHfyj8S6epRQx9bYfIiCa4cVciPO0CwFfgP0.P_cE_MN_2u6Edh1 VyevEmJYR78j43_3zQ3q_ZxLCCT9hp6aXT3su2fQlFp7gWmwAvdG1zlgUllz tdZ7vIFFsiiDbo8UmkKdwRCigFuUqSmC4JLNQPwgFrGW.9Flsry6yxbyQPPc 30AGkPkMigBR.TmWJB6zewYrDbwOYExaKSCcKJARMEPEFxi0hIkUWnbSV4If CMCCVBW8U4ihMP0fJ4yRk883Cs2AyCjSRIcsaLtaSHLTo9H1JlQ2WP5eA.iG xxBB9q265cbg7nFBOVCkRksXFfUL9SxeAnnCymS4HafDKQwfGKXRvGxgo.vz 82iETBIJ4VAWjPNu3vXaKjvStp7uNTQPD3cSPdzXtfSRaBmTsZ5zg9pYMm_7 j2a8MaIQ2YfHYBqIB_dc6sjm9tD5vtWqUHfVA2nSX74gXGpHfMwnQW.IcNfV mnYzxfg5noQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cx2nwAuswBAkr.BmYsq81b_UbFCK2u9L1iyckNPlBA-- Received: from [192.168.1.68] (jpcurtis@99.152.153.100 with plain) by smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Jun 2012 06:34:51 -0700 PDT From: Jim Curtis Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--267561507 Subject: Re: [AE] Definitely OT but Beer related :) - Lambics! Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:34:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: After Effects Mail List References: Message-Id: <3EFC0823-2156-48D2-A2C6-FAF9A0FE712E@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-3--267561507 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsnhiofL2Rh4 ;-) On Jun 4, 2012, at 2:52 AM, Chris Bator wrote: > I'd have to agree that most Lambic's that you can easily find are too = sweet, but there are a ton of belgian style ales, and I'm partial to = sour ales=85 But I still love a really hoppy IPA too. I'm not generally = a fan of Stone Brewing, but they made a collaboration beer that is a = really unusual and great IPA - Japanese Green Tea IPA, If you like IPA = at all, it's worth trying, very drinkable. >=20 > I'd agree that the Rodenback Grand Cru is good. >=20 > I also recommend: > Monk's Cafe Flemish Sour Ale is a nicely sweet sour cherry flavored = ale >=20 > But my favorite sours are from Russian River Brewing Company - = Supplication is a belgian style sour cherry (my current favorite beer - = period) and Consecration is a dark really strong sour that is amazing = with chocolate brownies. And you can't miss with a Blind Pig or a Pliny = for hoppy ipa's from RRBC. >=20 > I have a Lost Abbey Red Poppy Ale in my fridge... >=20 > Other hoppy offerings would include Speakeasy Double Daddy (but it = isn't what it used to be) and Bear Republic's Racer 5=85 If you can get = it, Maharaja from Avery Brewing in Colorado is a great Imperial IPA too. >=20 > Some Sierra Nevada Ruthless Rye and a few random English ales round = out what's in my fridge right now. >=20 >=20 > - chris >=20 >=20 > -- > chris bator > cbator@mac.com=09 > http://www.ui.somebug.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisbator > interactive and motion design >=20 > On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:10 PM, James Culbertson wrote: >=20 >> Most commercial Lambic's are too sweet. But I have had some home = brewed very-dry Lambic's that were nectar of the gods. So, I know they = can be very good. Just have not found a commercial one that reaches = anywhere near that level. >>=20 >> Same for hard cider in the states. I remember hitch hiking around = northern England in the late 80's and being introduced to hard ciders = that were really good, but unfortunately I cannot remember their names = (lots of missing memories from that time). >>=20 >> And then there are Bavarian Hefeweisens which were some of the best = beers I have ever had (I drank a lot of them during the time I lived in = Munich in '89), but again there is nothing in the states (so far) that = can equal the local brews from that region (I've tried Paulaner and few = of the other imported brands). >>=20 >> Love to get suggestions... >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> James >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Paul Miller wrote: >>=20 >>> On 6/3/2012 7:18 PM, Rendernyc wrote: >>>> Oaked Arrogant Bastard Ale is $21 a pack here. Is it that good? >>>=20 >>> I personally think it's overrated. The first time I had it = (admittedly, it was an inaugural cask) I thought it tasted almost, but = not quite, entirely like armpit sweat. If I wanted to drink armpit sweat = I'd have gotten a Lambic. I think it has gotten it's reputation mostly = from marketing, and the price. beeradvocate begs to differ. >>>=20 >>> My recommendation: spend your $21 on a Val-Dieu Grand Cru and a = Rodenbach Grand Cru. >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 --Apple-Mail-3--267561507 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DsnhiofL2Rh4

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On Jun 4, 2012, at 2:52 AM, Chris Bator = wrote:

I'd have to agree = that most Lambic's that you can easily find are too sweet, but there are = a ton of belgian style ales, and I'm partial to sour ales=85 But I still = love a really hoppy IPA too. I'm not generally a fan of Stone Brewing, = but they made a collaboration beer that is a really unusual and great = IPA - Japanese Green Tea IPA, If you like IPA at all, it's worth trying, = very drinkable.

I'd agree that the Rodenback = Grand Cru is good.

I also = recommend:
Monk's Cafe Flemish Sour Ale is a nicely sweet sour = cherry flavored ale

But my favorite sours are = from Russian River Brewing Company - Supplication is a belgian style = sour cherry (my current favorite beer - period) and Consecration is a = dark really strong sour that is amazing with chocolate brownies. And you = can't miss with a Blind Pig or a Pliny for hoppy ipa's from = RRBC.

I have a Lost Abbey Red Poppy Ale in my = fridge...

Other hoppy offerings would include = Speakeasy Double Daddy (but it isn't what it used to be) and Bear = Republic's Racer 5=85 If you can get it, Maharaja from Avery Brewing in = Colorado is a great Imperial IPA too.

Some = Sierra Nevada Ruthless Rye and a few random English ales round out = what's in my fridge right now.


- = chris



On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:10 PM, James Culbertson = wrote:

Most commercial Lambic's are too sweet. But I have = had some home brewed very-dry Lambic's that were nectar of the gods. So, = I know they can be very good. Just have not found a commercial one that = reaches anywhere near that level.

Same for hard cider in the = states. I remember hitch hiking around northern England in the late 80's = and being introduced to hard ciders that were really good, but = unfortunately I cannot remember their names (lots of missing memories = from that time).

And then there are Bavarian Hefeweisens which = were some of the best beers I have ever had (I drank a lot of them = during the time I lived in Munich in '89), but again there is nothing in = the states (so far) that can equal the local brews from that region = (I've tried Paulaner and few of the other imported brands).

Love = to get suggestions...

Thanks,

James


On Jun 3, = 2012, at 6:03 PM, Paul Miller wrote:

On = 6/3/2012 7:18 PM, Rendernyc wrote:
Oaked Arrogant Bastard Ale is = $21 a pack here. Is it that = good?

I personally = think it's overrated. The first time I had it (admittedly, it was an = inaugural cask) I thought it tasted almost, but not quite, entirely like = armpit sweat. If I wanted to drink armpit sweat I'd have gotten a = Lambic. I think it has gotten it's reputation mostly from marketing, and = the price. beeradvocate begs to differ.

My = recommendation: spend your $21 on a Val-Dieu Grand Cru and a Rodenbach = Grand Cru.

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