Return-Path: Received: from gateway01.websitewelcome.com ([69.56.142.19] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4735788 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 21:02:58 +0200 Received: from ham02.websitewelcome.com (unknown [173.192.111.51]) by gateway01.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D7D7B2D97E9 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:05:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: by ham02.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 666) id D8DB4879339BA; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:05:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ham02.websitewelcome.com X-Spam-Flag2999: NO X-Spam-Level2999: X-Spam-Status2999: "No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FRT_ADOBE2, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from alpina.websitewelcome.com (alpina.websitewelcome.com [74.54.176.2]) by ham02.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6D7879324A3 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:05:14 -0500 (CDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=crishdesign.com; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-BWhitelist:X-Source:X-Source-Args:X-Source-Dir:X-Source-Sender:X-Source-Auth:X-Email-Count:X-Source-Cap; b=vJOZ93ienekgRPhrJFE1Kk5JkBJhnnVlW6KYlH/e2rx/5zN7S/birhm74kgk9kKD0EzKkp6XDmuHliL8kHb+aL0UM8ZCpjQVdr10sFc9Bmi1/miRsnLvlnJM7tcWkaR0; Received: from [199.21.106.95] (port=49398 helo=[192.168.0.7]) by alpina.websitewelcome.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sbz45-0001ov-Io for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:05:14 -0500 From: Chris Meyer Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_EDC1183A-3536-4AFA-BE41-5A9FBA0942B2" Subject: Re: [AE] spL: [AE] SSD drives Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:05:12 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <71CD1825-1F0F-45C7-A546-1E475043FEAD@crishdesign.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - alpina.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crishdesign.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.168.0.7]) [199.21.106.95]:49398 X-Source-Auth: chris@crishdesign.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7YWxwaW5hLndlYnNpdGV3ZWxjb21lLmNvbQ== --Apple-Mail=_EDC1183A-3536-4AFA-BE41-5A9FBA0942B2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jun 5, 2012, at 10:43 AM, email blanca wrote: > Ahh, then it can be a small SSD, right? Yes. But not too small; it's easy to fill 10s of gigs with the new After = Effects CS6 cache. For laptops, I think around 120 GB is a sweet spot = given today's pricing and capacities. 200+ gig if you want to put the OS = on there as well, and/or work on a lot of large-format projects. There = seems to be quite a premium for the 480 GB drives right now. BTW, a very in-depth article on SSDs: = http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/inside-the-ssd-revol= ution-how-solid-state-disks-really-work/ - Chris > On Jun 4, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Chris Meyer wrote: >=20 >> No; what I meant to say was that SSDs are recommended by Adobe for = use as program caches - especially for After Effects. >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jun 4, 2012, at 1:29 PM, email blanca wrote: >>=20 >>> ... Cache drives ... you mean the hybrid design of a SSD and HDD = integrated where the SSD caches much of the data that is heavily used by = the OS and apps? =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Jun 4, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Chris Meyer wrote: >>>=20 >>>> They're recommended for cache drives. >>>>=20 >>>> - Chris >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Jun 4, 2012, at 1:14 PM, email blanca wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> I had issues with (2) OCC SSD. After about a month of solid use, I = started getting error messages and corrupted files. I was using one SSD = for OSX and another for windows. I have read you can get better = reliability with specific SSD technology, but it has been about 6 months = since I stopped using and following the topic. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Is the SSD worth the investment and potential trouble? The drives = are pretty speedy and time spent waiting on OS booting and apps opening = is pretty significant. If you conduct routine backup of your drives, any = failures are easily overcome. Any SSD of a decent size (250GB) or = larger will start to cost you some $$$. Personally, I decided to go with = the WD RE4 series drives instead. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Good luck. >>>>>=20 >>>>> RJ >>>>> ... >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Louai Abu-Osba wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Speaking of hard drives, are there any recommendations for the = newest generation of SSDs? I'm looking for application cache as well as = system. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> -louai >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Teddy Gage = wrote: >>>>>> Found the plugins after I posted, particularly useful was the = split exr layers to comps script in that package, also definitely = noticed the speed boost in file handling. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Now I just need faster storage and more hard drive space. These = fluid sims and exr sequences eat up space like nothing else. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Speaking of which, I need faster hard drives. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Jun 3, 2012 3:48 PM, "Todd Kopriva" wrote: >>>>>> Brendan has updated the ProEXR plug-ins beyond what is included = in After Effects. I recommend installing the new version for the speed = boost: >>>>>> http://fnordware.blogspot.com/2012/04/proexr-17-available.html >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>>> > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] = On >>>>>> > Behalf Of Chris Zwar >>>>>> > Sent: 02June2012 17:13 >>>>>> > To: After Effects Mail List >>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AE] Best open EXR tools? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I haven't upgraded to CS6 yet but it sounds like you still need = to use >>>>>> > the ProEXR plugins. I was hoping for better integration of = EXRs in >>>>>> > After Effects with CS6, unfortunately that doesn't seem to have >>>>>> > happened, but I will keep my fingers crossed for the next = version... >>>>>> > the pain with using a plugin to access EXR channels is that it = changes >>>>>> > the rendering order from what is 'normal' and so masks can be = effected, >>>>>> > and I don't think frame blending works at all. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > AFAIK to use EXRs in After Effects you just use the free After = Effects >>>>>> > plugins, which were also included with CS5.5, so I don't think = you need >>>>>> > to buy anything if you're only using AE. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -Chris >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 03/06/2012, at 6:46 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > What tools do you guys use for compositing 3D exported = open >>>>>> > .exrs? Is it still the ProEXR plugin or is there something = better? or >>>>>> > free? I know photoshop can't view multiple layered EXRs at this = point >>>>>> > right? >>>>>> > Thanks >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Animator & Editor >>>>>> > www.teddygage.com >>>>>> > Brooklyn >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_EDC1183A-3536-4AFA-BE41-5A9FBA0942B2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Ahh, then it can be a = small SSD, right?

Yes. But not too = small; it's easy to fill 10s of gigs with the new After Effects CS6 = cache. For laptops, I think around 120 GB is a sweet spot given today's = pricing and capacities. 200+ gig if you want to put the OS on there as = well, and/or work on a lot of large-format projects. There seems to be = quite a premium for the 480 GB drives right = now.

BTW, a very in-depth article on = SSDs:

 - = Chris


On Jun 4, = 2012, at 3:57 PM, Chris Meyer wrote:

No; what I meant to say was = that SSDs are recommended by Adobe for use as program caches - = especially for After Effects.


On Jun 4, = 2012, at 1:29 PM, email blanca wrote:

... Cache drives ...   you = mean the hybrid design of a SSD and HDD integrated where the SSD caches = much of the data that is heavily used by the OS and apps? =  




On Jun 4, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Chris Meyer wrote:

They're recommended for cache = drives.

 - = Chris


On Jun 4, 2012, at 1:14 PM, = email blanca wrote:

I had issues with (2) OCC SSD. = After about a month of solid use, I started getting error messages and = corrupted files.  I was using one SSD for OSX and another for = windows. I have read you can get better reliability with specific SSD = technology, but it has been about 6 months since I stopped using and = following the topic.

Is the SSD worth the investment = and potential trouble?  The drives are pretty speedy and time spent = waiting on OS booting and apps opening is pretty significant. If you = conduct routine backup of your drives, any failures are easily overcome. =  Any SSD of a decent size (250GB) or larger will start to cost you = some $$$. Personally, I decided to go with the WD RE4 series drives = instead.

Good = luck.

RJ
...

On= Jun 3, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Louai Abu-Osba wrote:

Speaking = of hard drives, are there any recommendations for the newest = generation of SSDs? I'm looking for application cache as well as = system.

-louai

On = Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

Found the plugins = after I posted, particularly useful was the split exr layers to comps = script in that package, also definitely noticed the speed boost in file = handling.

Now I just need faster storage and more hard drive = space. These fluid sims and exr sequences eat up space like nothing = else.

Speaking of which, I need faster hard drives. =

On Jun 3, 2012 3:48 PM, "Todd Kopriva" <kopriva@adobe.com> wrote:
Brendan has updated the ProEXR plug-ins beyond what is included in After = Effects. I recommend installing the new version for the speed boost:
http://fnordware.blogspot.com/2012/04/proexr-17-availabl= e.html

> -----Original Message-----
> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On
> Behalf Of Chris Zwar
> Sent: 02June2012 17:13
> To: After Effects Mail List
> Subject: Re: [AE] Best open EXR tools?
>
> I haven't upgraded to CS6 yet but it sounds like you still need to = use
> the ProEXR plugins.  I was hoping for better integration of = EXRs in
> After Effects with CS6, unfortunately that doesn't seem to have
> happened, but I will keep my fingers crossed for the next = version...
> the pain with using a plugin to access EXR channels is that it = changes
> the rendering order from what is 'normal' and so masks can be = effected,
> and I don't think frame blending works at all.
>
> AFAIK to use EXRs in After Effects you just use the free After = Effects
> plugins, which were also included with CS5.5, so I don't think you = need
> to buy anything if you're only using AE.
>
> -Chris
>
>
> On 03/06/2012, at 6:46 AM, Teddy Gage wrote:
>
>
>       What tools do you guys use for compositing 3D = exported open
> .exrs? Is it still the ProEXR plugin or is there something better? = or
> free? I know photoshop can't view multiple layered EXRs at this = point
> right?
>       Thanks
>
>       --
>       Animator & Editor
>       www.teddygage.com <http://www.teddygage.com/>
>       Brooklyn
>
>
>


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