Return-Path: Received: from na3sys009aog120.obsmtp.com ([74.125.149.140] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4736118 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 03:59:32 +0200 Received: from mail-qa0-f42.google.com ([209.85.216.42]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob120.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT866DN5WuM+zYAxUe1piN/j2kzqSSmk3@postini.com; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:02:00 PDT Received: by qafi31 with SMTP id i31so2434402qaf.15 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:01:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=totaltraining.com; s=google; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=k4JBmmD6MHBjmJmff9tepCObwx0xSyD1QZ0MUKMink0=; b=Apz2bCofEzKXRjYeUD/3WDxxPgU4qKnZaFCSHp6qeLZ3Y9E21L8dRyyM9zkpPVT866 S0NClN51IWDCHvyzef43vTGT9hLlKgvNsS/ARUFVkkYPkI9M1DTrTKMV5piAsSsL9zP9 fDHmXMQPwp+7O/koy5XqLBAglhQszqEJEIi9A= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=k4JBmmD6MHBjmJmff9tepCObwx0xSyD1QZ0MUKMink0=; b=mED+a6XFFNAHNB4HbXfIKLVQ64SLMMG/vQGh/qC/0+bpH4qfEX/MzKV2Wvw0U/tByK hO6dq8NlHGBh3uM8RKOr+Zdx5s0piHntyJ14kKcI41s/hMDT6ROc3SruZYUEkjYrRWtk qJjWPi+OcryDERmka+qbh8RYXNGHwawkYeX0yPxv/deX20ir5HR4NSGQT+obG4vEv43i mUwjghSIfeABRZt/gWc8PmQPekMeBibLVucv+kXLvIJhdHk9JplK3OkCiDf7/0dvjku5 84ZBC7I6PHuMjmaHRZEyjNVKO9r5iGabThrRfXAsgwBl5YTJ4jq0ZVvblle/lKfh+Xzm AsJw== Received: by 10.229.102.65 with SMTP id f1mr5848qco.81.1338948100965; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from macintosh-5.home ([71.167.185.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dq7sm761232qab.0.2012.06.05.19.01.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer? From: Brian Maffitt In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:01:37 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1B43538C-AA95-4BD3-B164-37A5F6891038@totaltraining.com> References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnPflhhaaTOMgD+4Osyd5ImMvLWT+F5tipbILyAJowAxPoomu6zqb8oGeoYYk3SEwHoyeEF This all assumes one has an upgradeable machine. If you are using a = non-supported laptop or an all-in-one machine (iMac) with an ATI or = Intel card, your only recourse is a whole new machine... or work slowly. > lets put it another way, the cost of a CUDA compatible GPU is a couple = hundred bucks. thats way cheaper than replacing an entire system = sporting xeon CPU's that could easily run $3k-5K. a CUDA GPU is = literally 1/10th the price of a CPU upgrade.. assuming you even need to = do one.=20 >=20 > S >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jun 5, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote: >=20 >>> I'm trying to get my head around Adobe's decision to go with the ray >>> traced renderer they did in AE6.=20 >>=20 >> I just asked a couple of the software engineers involved about this = decision, and they say that a ray-traced renderer is more efficient for = getting good-looking results for reflections, refractions, and shadows = than would be a scanline renderer. Our GPU-based ray-traced 3D renderer = is actually quite fast compared with anything that gives comparable = visual results for these light-related characteristics. That said, the = CPU-based renderer is slow, and we acknowledge that.=20 >>=20 >> As far hardware dependencies: We officially support a couple dozen = GPUs, and many of the high-performing ones (like the GTX 580) are not = expensive. >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to