Return-Path: Received: from nova.lunarpages.com ([67.210.126.175] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4736630 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:28:26 +0200 Received: from 70.91.57.77-busname-panjde.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([70.91.57.77]:37365 helo=[10.1.10.102]) by nova.lunarpages.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1ScHG6-0007dR-Vv for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:30:51 -0700 From: James WIlson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--91411008 Subject: Re: [AE] OT: my head will explode Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:30:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - nova.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jwmm.com --Apple-Mail-5--91411008 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I submitted a feature request. Yes, the scopes update in increments, but it's painful to work like that = =96 kind of like carrying too much to be able to run in Skyrim. I have seen spots on tv that may have been within legal ranges, but that = doesn't mean that the image has the intended look =96 have been seeing = stuff with really saturated colors (no bleeding, just unnatural) and = really dark gammas (murky and lacking detail). They just look like they = were graded without an accurate color reference. But I could be wrong. = :) On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > In CS6, they sort of update, as long as you make short little stops = while you're adjusting. But, you can now make adjustments while the = video is playing, too. That's nice. And the Pr scopes have not failed = me either in sending of to DG. >=20 > Agree with you on Looks having a limitation of a single frame. I'd = like to be able to shuttle within the clip at least. >=20 > I'd also like to see Looks take advantage of CUDA and real-time in Pr, = like the native plugs. Not sure who the impediment to this is=85 = whether there's no plug-in SDK for Pr or that no third party has figured = it out. Likely the former. In that case, I'm filing a feature request. = Please join me. Strength in numbers. >=20 > https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=3Dwishform >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jun 5, 2012, at 9:03 AM, James WIlson wrote: >=20 >> No, but they're brutal to use. Maybe I'm doing something wrong since = I'm just transitioning from FCP and don't know it as well, but they = don't update for me when I'm doing any adjustments ( only after I make = them ), and when they do, they are slow to refresh. Have you seen the = new scopes in FCPX? They are really nice. >>=20 >> On a side note, if any Red Giant guys or girls are listening, it = would be excellent if Looks had playback capabilities. I think that's a = great tool, but still it would be nice if you could play the clips to = get a better feel for the look rather than seeing just one frame. Plus, = it would be nice to tear off the scopes to another display and scale = them up. >>=20 >> All said, I'm still in the same quandary with my grading tools =96 = useless with Kona3. AJA told me to hit Adobe with a feature request. >>=20 >> Thanks. >>=20 >> Jim >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jun 4, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Karl Newman wrote: >>=20 >>> On Jun 4, 2012, at 4:23 PM, James WIlson wrote: >>>=20 >>>> But grading in PPro or AE is not appealing to me ( lack of any real = software scopes active during playback, don't have any hardware scopes >>>=20 >>> Did they take the software scopes out of Premier Pro CS6?=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Karl Newman >>> Karl Newman Productions >>>=20 >>> kwnewman@verizon.net >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-5--91411008 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 I = submitted a feature request.
Yes, the scopes update in increments, = but it's painful to work like that =96 kind of like carrying too much to = be able to run in Skyrim.
I have seen spots on tv that may = have been within legal ranges, but that doesn't mean that the image has = the intended look =96 have been seeing stuff with really saturated = colors (no bleeding, just unnatural) and really dark gammas (murky and = lacking detail). They just look like they were graded without an = accurate color reference. But I could be wrong. = :)


On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:54 = PM, Jim Curtis wrote:

In CS6, they sort of update, as = long as you make short little stops while you're adjusting.  But, = you can now make adjustments while the video is playing, too. =  That's nice.  And the Pr scopes have not failed me either in = sending of to DG.

Agree with you on Looks having a = limitation of a single frame.  I'd like to be able to shuttle = within the clip at least.

I'd also like to see = Looks take advantage of CUDA and real-time in Pr, like the native plugs. =  Not sure who the impediment to this is=85 whether there's no = plug-in SDK for Pr or that no third party has figured it out. =  Likely the former.  In that case, I'm filing a feature = request.  Please join me.  Strength in = numbers.



On Jun 5, = 2012, at 9:03 AM, James WIlson wrote:

No, but they're brutal to use. = Maybe I'm doing something wrong since I'm just transitioning from FCP = and don't know it as well, but they don't update for me when I'm doing = any adjustments ( only after I make them ), and when they do, they are = slow to refresh. Have you seen the new scopes in FCPX? They are really = nice.

On a side note, if any Red Giant guys or girls = are listening, it would be excellent if Looks had playback capabilities. = I think that's a great tool, but still it would be nice if you could = play the clips to get a better feel for the look rather than seeing just = one frame. Plus, it would be nice to tear off the scopes to another = display and scale them up.

All said, I'm still = in the same quandary with my grading tools =96 useless with Kona3. AJA = told me to hit Adobe with a feature = request.

Thanks.

Jim


On Jun 4, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Karl = Newman wrote:

On Jun 4, = 2012, at 4:23 PM, James WIlson wrote:

But = grading in PPro or AE is not appealing to me ( lack of any real software = scopes active during playback, don't have any hardware = scopes

Did they take the software = scopes out of Premier Pro CS6? 


Karl Newman
Karl Newman = Productions



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