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From: "Robert W. Walker" <robertw@walkersound.com>
To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: RE: [AE] OT: my head will explode
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:42:45 -0700
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That oversaturated, smashed-detail murk is "style," James!  ":^)=0A=0ARober=
t W. Walker=0ALos Angeles=0A=0A=0A> -------- Original Message --------=0A> =
Subject: Re: [AE] OT: my head will explode=0A> From: James WIlson <lists@jw=
mm.com>=0A> Date: Wed, June 06, 2012 10:30 am=0A> To: "After Effects Mail L=
ist" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>=0A> =0A> =0A> I submitted a feature request.=
=0A> Yes, the scopes update in increments, but it's painful to work like th=
at =E2=80=93 kind of like carrying too much to be able to run in Skyrim.=0A=
> I have seen spots on tv that may have been within legal ranges, but that =
doesn't mean that the image has the intended look =E2=80=93 have been seein=
g stuff with really saturated colors (no bleeding, just unnatural) and real=
ly dark gammas (murky and lacking detail). They just look like they were gr=
aded without an accurate color reference. But I could be wrong. :)=0A> =0A>=
 =0A> On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:=0A> =0A> > In CS6, they=
 sort of update, as long as you make short little stops while you're adjust=
ing.  But, you can now make adjustments while the video is playing, too.  T=
hat's nice.  And the Pr scopes have not failed me either in sending of to D=
G.=0A> > =0A> > Agree with you on Looks having a limitation of a single fra=
me.  I'd like to be able to shuttle within the clip at least.=0A> > =0A> > =
I'd also like to see Looks take advantage of CUDA and real-time in Pr, like=
 the native plugs.  Not sure who the impediment to this is=E2=80=A6 whether=
 there's no plug-in SDK for Pr or that no third party has figured it out.  =
Likely the former.  In that case, I'm filing a feature request.  Please joi=
n me.  Strength in numbers.=0A> > =0A> > https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmfo=
rm/index.cfm?name=3Dwishform=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > On Jun 5, 20=
12, at 9:03 AM, James WIlson wrote:=0A> > =0A> >> No, but they're brutal to=
 use. Maybe I'm doing something wrong since I'm just transitioning from FCP=
 and don't know it as well, but they don't update for me when I'm doing any=
 adjustments ( only after I make them ), and when they do, they are slow to=
 refresh. Have you seen the new scopes in FCPX? They are really nice.=0A> >=
> =0A> >> On a side note, if any Red Giant guys or girls are listening, it =
would be excellent if Looks had playback capabilities. I think that's a gre=
at tool, but still it would be nice if you could play the clips to get a be=
tter feel for the look rather than seeing just one frame. Plus, it would be=
 nice to tear off the scopes to another display and scale them up.=0A> >> =
=0A> >> All said, I'm still in the same quandary with my grading tools =E2=
=80=93 useless with Kona3. AJA told me to hit Adobe with a feature request.=
=0A> >> =0A> >> Thanks.=0A> >> =0A> >> Jim=0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> On Jun 4,=
 2012, at 5:42 PM, Karl Newman wrote:=0A> >> =0A> >>> On Jun 4, 2012, at 4:=
23 PM, James WIlson wrote:=0A> >>> =0A> >>>> But grading in PPro or AE is n=
ot appealing to me ( lack of any real software scopes active during playbac=
k, don't have any hardware scopes=0A> >>> =0A> >>> Did they take the softwa=
re scopes out of Premier Pro CS6? =0A> >>> =0A> >>> =0A> >>> Karl Newman=0A=
> >>> Karl Newman Productions=0A> >>> =0A> >>> kwnewman@verizon.net=0A> >>>=
 =0A> >>> =0A> >>> =0A> >>> =0A> >> =0A> >=0A