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I look at it this way: The software scopes are saving me money and desktop/rack space vs a hardware alternative. The savings require a trade-off. I accept the trade-off.
BMD has a "cheap" hardware scope; seems to be well accepted by some of my colleagues. If it's that important to you, buy one.
FWIW, Apple had real-time updating on it's software scopes since version 6 (I think). If they can do it, I don't know why Adobe can't. It's only one scan line, but still.
On Jun 6, 2012, at 9:30 AM, James WIlson wrote: I submitted a feature request. Yes, the scopes update in increments, but it's painful to work like that kind of like carrying too much to be able to run in Skyrim. I have seen spots on tv that may have been within legal ranges, but that doesn't mean that the image has the intended look have been seeing stuff with really saturated colors (no bleeding, just unnatural) and really dark gammas (murky and lacking detail). They just look like they were graded without an accurate color reference. But I could be wrong. :)
On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: In CS6, they sort of update, as long as you make short little stops while you're adjusting. But, you can now make adjustments while the video is playing, too. That's nice. And the Pr scopes have not failed me either in sending of to DG.
Agree with you on Looks having a limitation of a single frame. I'd like to be able to shuttle within the clip at least.
I'd also like to see Looks take advantage of CUDA and real-time in Pr, like the native plugs. Not sure who the impediment to this is
whether there's no plug-in SDK for Pr or that no third party has figured it out. Likely the former. In that case, I'm filing a feature request. Please join me. Strength in numbers.
On Jun 5, 2012, at 9:03 AM, James WIlson wrote: No, but they're brutal to use. Maybe I'm doing something wrong since I'm just transitioning from FCP and don't know it as well, but they don't update for me when I'm doing any adjustments ( only after I make them ), and when they do, they are slow to refresh. Have you seen the new scopes in FCPX? They are really nice.
On a side note, if any Red Giant guys or girls are listening, it would be excellent if Looks had playback capabilities. I think that's a great tool, but still it would be nice if you could play the clips to get a better feel for the look rather than seeing just one frame. Plus, it would be nice to tear off the scopes to another display and scale them up.
All said, I'm still in the same quandary with my grading tools useless with Kona3. AJA told me to hit Adobe with a feature request.
Thanks.
Jim
On Jun 4, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Karl Newman wrote: On Jun 4, 2012, at 4:23 PM, James WIlson wrote: But grading in PPro or AE is not appealing to me ( lack of any real software scopes active during playback, don't have any hardware scopes Did they take the software scopes out of Premier Pro CS6?
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