Return-Path: Received: from nova.lunarpages.com ([67.210.126.175] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4736721 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 17:33:10 +0200 Received: from 70.91.57.77-busname-panjde.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([70.91.57.77]:46526 helo=[10.1.10.102]) by nova.lunarpages.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1ScIGl-00024k-PB for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 08:35:36 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [AE] OT: my head will explode From: James WIlson In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:35:35 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - nova.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jwmm.com Ha! :D But, I do believe in some cases it's true because detail is preserved = and colors look good, but in others it's so bad it can't be intentional = =96 shadows on a sunlit day that make the spot look like a noir film and = colors that are on the edge of tearing. I saw some basketball promos the = other day for maybe an ESPN (??) highlight show or something, and they = suffered from this problem. But when they went back to the live program = everything looked good. There's a lot to be said for engineers. On Jun 6, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Robert W. Walker wrote: > That oversaturated, smashed-detail murk is "style," James! ":^) >=20 > Robert W. Walker > Los Angeles >=20 >=20 >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [AE] OT: my head will explode >> From: James WIlson >> Date: Wed, June 06, 2012 10:30 am >> To: "After Effects Mail List" >>=20 >>=20 >> I submitted a feature request. >> Yes, the scopes update in increments, but it's painful to work like = that =96 kind of like carrying too much to be able to run in Skyrim. >> I have seen spots on tv that may have been within legal ranges, but = that doesn't mean that the image has the intended look =96 have been = seeing stuff with really saturated colors (no bleeding, just unnatural) = and really dark gammas (murky and lacking detail). They just look like = they were graded without an accurate color reference. But I could be = wrong. :) >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>=20 >>> In CS6, they sort of update, as long as you make short little stops = while you're adjusting. But, you can now make adjustments while the = video is playing, too. That's nice. And the Pr scopes have not failed = me either in sending of to DG. >>>=20 >>> Agree with you on Looks having a limitation of a single frame. I'd = like to be able to shuttle within the clip at least. >>>=20 >>> I'd also like to see Looks take advantage of CUDA and real-time in = Pr, like the native plugs. Not sure who the impediment to this is=85 = whether there's no plug-in SDK for Pr or that no third party has figured = it out. Likely the former. In that case, I'm filing a feature request. = Please join me. Strength in numbers. >>>=20 >>> https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=3Dwishform >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Jun 5, 2012, at 9:03 AM, James WIlson wrote: >>>=20 >>>> No, but they're brutal to use. Maybe I'm doing something wrong = since I'm just transitioning from FCP and don't know it as well, but = they don't update for me when I'm doing any adjustments ( only after I = make them ), and when they do, they are slow to refresh. Have you seen = the new scopes in FCPX? They are really nice. >>>>=20 >>>> On a side note, if any Red Giant guys or girls are listening, it = would be excellent if Looks had playback capabilities. I think that's a = great tool, but still it would be nice if you could play the clips to = get a better feel for the look rather than seeing just one frame. Plus, = it would be nice to tear off the scopes to another display and scale = them up. >>>>=20 >>>> All said, I'm still in the same quandary with my grading tools =96 = useless with Kona3. AJA told me to hit Adobe with a feature request. >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks. >>>>=20 >>>> Jim >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Jun 4, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Karl Newman wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> On Jun 4, 2012, at 4:23 PM, James WIlson wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> But grading in PPro or AE is not appealing to me ( lack of any = real software scopes active during playback, don't have any hardware = scopes >>>>>=20 >>>>> Did they take the software scopes out of Premier Pro CS6?=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Karl Newman >>>>> Karl Newman Productions >>>>>=20 >>>>> kwnewman@verizon.net >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to