Return-Path: Received: from gateway01.websitewelcome.com ([69.93.115.19] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4736955 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:41:35 +0200 Received: from gator1184.hostgator.com (gator1184.hostgator.com [174.121.151.98]) by gateway01.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492D87BE0DF13 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:44:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [24.167.166.243] (port=51655 helo=Neptune) by gator1184.hostgator.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1ScLDA-0002SF-2U for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:44:04 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Stephen van Vuuren" To: "'After Effects Mail List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [AE] OT: Rumors say new MacPros announced next week Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:43:54 -0400 Organization: SV2 Studios Message-ID: <00b301cd4414$539b6520$fad22f60$@sv2studios.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B4_01CD43F2.CC8AFDA0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQLoZhXpoc6JWfH84yl8r2ysGOsAt5S3WrSw X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator1184.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sv2studios.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (Neptune) [24.167.166.243]:51655 X-Source-Auth: stephen@sv2studios.com X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: c3RlcGhlbnY7c3RlcGhlbnY7Z2F0b3IxMTg0Lmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01CD43F2.CC8AFDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > why wouldn't they update to the latest processor? I'm betting the = latest and greatest. =20 So far Apple has skipped the high performance single socket options. Mac = Pro has been Xeon only =E2=80=93 dual socket but very price. iMac has = been low and mid-range consumer processors. For AE 64-bit, you really = want 4 to 8 GB of RAM per thread, many people end up with Mac Pros with = more threads then RAM i.e. spending dollars on CPU power that unless you = do a lot of 3D go to waste. So Apple offer a low-end CPU solution, a = high-end solution (for a very premium price) =E2=80=93 but a mid-range = high power solution =E2=80=93 generally the best buy for most AE users. =20 If you buy a 12 or 16 core system for AE, you=E2=80=99ve got to have a = ton of RAM for it to make economic sense. And Xeon RAM is usually more = expensive to boot. Plus, Sandy Bridge-E are overclock friendly (of course, if Apple ever = released a overclock friendly motherboard, I would die of heart attack) = but even without that, a Sandy-Bridge E is faster than Ivy Bridge for = AE. And Ivy Bridge E or whatever they call it will be coming down the = pipe. =20 stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 =20 http://www.sv2dcp.com/ http://www.sv2studios.com/ http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/ =20 A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like = fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what=E2=80=99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. =E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick =20 From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf = Of pixelbot@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 2:20 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Rumors say new MacPros announced next week =20 *cough* vista *cough =20 and Stephen, =20 why wouldn't they update to the latest processor? I'm betting the latest = and greatest. =20 timt _____ =20 From: "Jim Curtis" Woo hoo! Let's hope it will run 10.6.8. I'm not too happy with my = experiments in Lion. It's been the most painful OS transition ever. =20 =20 On Jun 6, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stephen van Vuuren wrote: =20 Although late to the party, =20 http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/05/after-nearly-two-years-without-an-update-ap= ple-to-finally-revamp-mac-pro-next-week/ =20 Let=E2=80=99s hope Mac Pro=E2=80=99s get Sandy Bridge-E processor = choices as that=E2=80=99s the best bang for the buck for AE for most = people although I suspect given the low engineering priority = it=E2=80=99s probably unlikely. ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01CD43F2.CC8AFDA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> why wouldn't = they update to the latest processor? I'm betting the latest and = greatest.

 

So far Apple has skipped the high performance single socket options. = Mac Pro has been Xeon only =E2=80=93 dual socket but very price. iMac = has been low and mid-range consumer processors. For AE 64-bit, you = really want 4 to 8 GB of RAM per thread, many people end up with Mac = Pros with more threads then RAM i.e. spending dollars on CPU power that = unless you do a lot of 3D go to waste. So Apple offer a low-end CPU = solution, a high-end solution (for a very premium price) =E2=80=93 but a = mid-range high power solution =E2=80=93 generally the best buy for most = AE users.

 

If you buy a 12 or 16 core system for AE, you=E2=80=99ve got to have = a ton of RAM for it to make economic sense. And Xeon RAM is usually more = expensive to boot.


Plus, Sandy Bridge-E are overclock friendly (of course, if Apple = ever released a overclock friendly motherboard, I would die of heart = attack) but even without that, a Sandy-Bridge E is faster than Ivy = Bridge for AE. And Ivy Bridge E or whatever they call it will be coming = down the pipe.

 

stephen van vuuren

336.202.4777

 

http://www.sv2dcp.com/<= /b>

http://www.sv2studios.com/<= /span>

http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/=

 

A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like = fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what=E2=80=99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes = later.

=E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick

 

From:= = After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of = pixelbot@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 2:20 = PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] OT: = Rumors say new MacPros announced next = week

 

*cough* vista = *cough

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and = Stephen,

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why wouldn't they = update to the latest processor? I'm betting the latest and = greatest.

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timt

From: = "Jim = Curtis" <jpcurtis@me.com>

Woo= hoo!  Let's hope it will run 10.6.8.  I'm not too happy with = my experiments in Lion.  It's been the most painful OS transition = ever.

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On Jun 6, 2012, = at 10:03 AM, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote:

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Although late to the party,

 

 

Let=E2=80=99s hope Mac Pro=E2=80=99s get Sandy Bridge-E processor = choices as that=E2=80=99s the best bang for the buck for AE for most = people although I suspect given the low engineering priority = it=E2=80=99s probably unlikely.

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