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| Roland has an entirely legitimate criticism of how _some_ Adobe personnel have expressed their opinion regarding certain hardware options (e.g., GTX vs Quadro). I'll be bringing this feedback back to those folks in sales who have been most loudly expressing those opinions. But, anyone who has listened to members of the After Effects or Premiere Pro development and product management teams has not heard that same skew toward certain hardware. In fact, anyone at AENY or AEPDX last week heard different advice altogether. There are very affordable options that give good performance. That said, it's not really our role to provide comparisons between specific pieces of hardware. That's more appropriately the role of independent parties (such as the tests that Danny has been doing). That's why in this FAQ entry about what hardware to buy, I point to resources created by independent parties, like Harm Millaard and Bill Gehrke: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3804380 Your trust is important to us. If you can point to any specific examples of where you feel that you've been deceived or misled, please do so. You all have my email address. > -----Original Message----- > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On > Behalf Of Roland Kahlenberg (RoRK) > Sent: 07June2012 00:06 > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer? > > Dan, you cannot be serious that a two-month 'survey' led you guys to > make such huge decisions. Adobe has in-house video evangelists who are > supposed to be out there; supporting the AE, educating and providing > feedback (hi Todd ;-0). > > Raise your hands folks to signal the last time you saw any really > useful tutorial or write-up from one of Adobe's so-called video > evangelists. Sorry but my toes are laughing too much to raise even a > finger! > > Then ... say what you want but I hear nothing but Quadro, Quadro, > Quadro when I watch a video from Adobe. Seriously, when did Adobe > become an Italian company! ;-) > > The facts have been very consistent that the best performance GPUs for > CS6 are the GTX cards. WOW! Are we to believe that it's taken such a > long while for us folks to find this out? Surely you guys couldn't have > been missing the hoop all this while? What's your take on the rendering > results thus far Dan? We all love you guys at the AE Team but this is > the first time that many of us have experienced such profound and > concerted BS coming from Adobe. We'll all likely rationalize, somehow, > and do a group hug. But it saddens me that pushing the Quadro's has > been hyped up so much without real-world stats! Notice that Adobe has > never once provided A/B comparisons between the Quadro's and the other > supported nVidia cards and yet that's all they do. > > Having said all these, I am actually extremely happy with CS6 and it's > the best software upgrade I've ever made. > > But the trust I've had with AE has diminished quite a bit due to the > marketing BS. I've said it before and maybe it'll never amount to > anything BUT I do want to say this again - the best thing that can > happen to AE is for the development team to leave Adobe and for AE to > be part of an independent development team. A place where the entire > company is structured towards compositing (and all that it entails) and > telling the truth and behaving like decent, hardworking, honest adults > working together with professionals in a world made up of adults so > that each individual maximizes their true potential - to make a > positive difference. > > Folks, Adobe is not AE and AE is not Adobe. AE is part of Adobe. Adobe > is a marketing company. This marketing company leverages on technology. > This is the gist of it. > > - Roland > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Ramirez" <ramirezdan@gmail.com> > To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> > Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 6:22:25 AM > Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer? > > I'm not seeing how CS5 is relevant to the conversation. > > > The visit(s) I'm referring to were conducted Dec 2010 - Jan 2011. > > > ---------------- > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> |
