Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:29:38 -0700 (MST)
From: "Roland Kahlenberg (RoRK)" <aemaillist@broadcastgems.com>
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Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer?
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Hi Dan, I believe you meant to address me instead of Robert. 

Firstly, I never questioned the quality nor the integrity of the results you obtained from the two-month long survey. My point was that it was a rather short period of time + there are Adobe employees, evangelists and sales folks who I assume are out there with customers throughout the year and these two groups of people should be soliciting info on a constant basis.

As for the testing, again, this is where the video evangelists and related sales folks could have helped out. 

BTW, I got myself a GTX680, a week after it was released. I'm pleased with it and especially how quackly the AE Team got it approved for CS6. I am however concerned for others who may have purchased a Quadro, thinking that it's the best card for CS6 because that's what Adobe has been saying, consistently, in their CS6-related videos. I don't see this as being fair to AE users nor to the AE Team. The Quadro's are not the best card for CS6 but that has been the consistent message thus far. They may have been the most tested but to say anything more is not correct.

Todd has more or less agreed with my sentiments. Hopefully, users will get a more balanced, constructive view directly from Adobe in future videos. 

Cheers
- Roland


----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Ramirez" <ramirezdan@gmail.com>
To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 11:52:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer?

Robert, we flew people in an airplane to talk with customers about this
potential decision. If you want to equate that with survey monkey, or
simply don't want to believe it, there's nothing I can do to change your
mind.


The Quadro 4000 card was the most extensively tested card we used in the
CS6 cycle. We have limited testing resources and we chose to focus on
testing and certifying their professional level graphics cards. Those
videos probably mention quadro because they're likely using a system the
AE team recommended. We're not going to recommend configurations we
haven't extensively tested. If we decided to invest more time in testing
ray-traced 3D, we could have focused on benchmarking the quadro vs. the
gtx, but we decided to focus on testing things like our new caching
model and the 3D camera tracker instead. You mentioned CS6 was a good
release so I figure we made the right trade-offs.


No one is preventing you from using a cheaper card and I'm thrilled
there are lower cost alternatives that meet the needs of our users. We
take pride in offering a tool used by artists that can compete with much
more expensive solutions.


On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Roland Kahlenberg (RoRK) <
aemaillist@broadcastgems.com > wrote: