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From: Chris Meyer In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:38:58 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - alpina.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crishdesign.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.168.0.7]) [199.21.106.95]:53439 X-Source-Auth: chris@crishdesign.com X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7YWxwaW5hLndlYnNpdGV3ZWxjb21lLmNvbQ== On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Roland Kahlenberg (RoRK) wrote: > There are four approved Mac nVidia cards and I believe this has been = the case since CS6 was launched. Here's the list -=20 > http://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects/tech-specs.html To be fair, the 4800FX is now old (expensive and underpowered compared = to the 4000), and the CX is ancient. And the GTX 285 is hardly a 580 or = 590. On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote: > That page hasn't yet been updated to add the GTX 680, the card that we = added with the 11.0.1 update. I'm assuming that officially, that's a Windows-only card? (Would be = happy to be wrong.) and statistics - Chris =20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rendernyc" > To: "After Effects Mail List" > Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 12:43:37 AM > Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer? >=20 > At this point in time the quadro 4000 is the only card with CUDA for = the > macpro that is supported by apple >=20 >=20 > so.... >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Roland Kahlenberg (RoRK) < > aemaillist@broadcastgems.com > wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi Dan, I believe you meant to address me instead of Robert. >=20 > Firstly, I never questioned the quality nor the integrity of the = results > you obtained from the two-month long survey. My point was that it was = a > rather short period of time + there are Adobe employees, evangelists = and > sales folks who I assume are out there with customers throughout the > year and these two groups of people should be soliciting info on a > constant basis. >=20 > As for the testing, again, this is where the video evangelists and > related sales folks could have helped out. >=20 > BTW, I got myself a GTX680, a week after it was released. I'm pleased > with it and especially how quackly the AE Team got it approved for = CS6. > I am however concerned for others who may have purchased a Quadro, > thinking that it's the best card for CS6 because that's what Adobe has > been saying, consistently, in their CS6-related videos. I don't see = this > as being fair to AE users nor to the AE Team. The Quadro's are not the > best card for CS6 but that has been the consistent message thus far. > They may have been the most tested but to say anything more is not > correct. >=20 > Todd has more or less agreed with my sentiments. Hopefully, users will > get a more balanced, constructive view directly from Adobe in future > videos. >=20 > Cheers >=20 > - Roland >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Ramirez" < ramirezdan@gmail.com > > To: "After Effects Mail List" < AE-List@media-motion.tv > >=20 > Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 11:52:34 PM > Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Robert, we flew people in an airplane to talk with customers about = this > potential decision. If you want to equate that with survey monkey, or > simply don't want to believe it, there's nothing I can do to change = your > mind. >=20 >=20 > The Quadro 4000 card was the most extensively tested card we used in = the > CS6 cycle. We have limited testing resources and we chose to focus on > testing and certifying their professional level graphics cards. Those > videos probably mention quadro because they're likely using a system = the > AE team recommended. We're not going to recommend configurations we > haven't extensively tested. If we decided to invest more time in = testing > ray-traced 3D, we could have focused on benchmarking the quadro vs. = the > gtx, but we decided to focus on testing things like our new caching > model and the 3D camera tracker instead. You mentioned CS6 was a good > release so I figure we made the right trade-offs. >=20 >=20 > No one is preventing you from using a cheaper card and I'm thrilled > there are lower cost alternatives that meet the needs of our users. We > take pride in offering a tool used by artists that can compete with = much > more expensive solutions. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Roland Kahlenberg (RoRK) < > aemaillist@broadcastgems.com > wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to < ae-list-off@media-motion.tv > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- danny princz >=20 > exposedideas.com >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to