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From: rendernyc To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5015e77d944cc04c1f8de29 --bcaec5015e77d944cc04c1f8de29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable working on that heres a link to the current working doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0AlY-UawCfDQudEhQYWJsbUtRSVkt= ZlFIR2xsSzFXMUE#gid=3D1 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Greg Bacon wrote: > By chance, is this information being posted on a site for viewing all > specs of the individual cards and the projects that were used (or > description of test)? This is an awesome resource. Thanks! > > Greg > =95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95 > Greg Bacon > Sr. Animator > Office of Public Outreach > Space Telescope Science Institute > Baltimore, Maryland 21218 > 410.338.4478 > > From: Greg Balint > Reply-To: After Effects Mail List > Date: Friday, June 8, 2012 12:35 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer? > > Wow. Alright, thanks! > > ////Greg Balint > ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > delRAZOR.com/ > > On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, rendernyc wrote: > > did a little test with lloyd the other day that had some extuded text > with a reflective floor. 2008 macpro CPU render was abotu 15mins. he turn= ed > on his 8800GT that is not supported and it rendered in about 7 mins. on a > q4000 the same scene took 37 seconds > > > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:26 PM, rendernyc wrote: > >> CPU based render? >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Greg Balint wrote: >> >>> Danny, could you do a test for me on the same project file with the >>> 580 turned off? Just to see how much the Nvidia cards are helping the >>> situation? >>> >>> ////Greg Balint >>> ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer >>> delRAZOR.com/ >>> >>> On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:16 PM, rendernyc wrote: >>> >>> if ANYONE has one of the cards tested already or a different one and >>> wouldnt mind popping off a render please email me so we can get more >>> results >>> >>> danny >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Andrew Embury wrote= : >>> >>>> Fantastic! >>>> >>>> Thank you ever so much for doing this. This is truly phenomenal of the >>>> user group to come together to make this all possible. >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> >>>> - Andrew >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM, rendernyc wrote= : >>>> >>>>> The 480 uses more power than the 5XX >>>>> im expecting the 570 to be about the same speed as the 480 while usin= g >>>>> less power >>>>> >>>>> waiting for some tests on that one >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM, rendernyc wrote= : >>>>> >>>>>> we had the 580 at 15:07 >>>>>> so 480 was about 8% slower >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Andrew Embury wr= ote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> For the performance to cost ratio....WOW! That's phenomenal! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, the 580 is cutting that time by 3 minutes is that correct? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Andrew >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, rendernyc wro= te: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 480 in a 12 core macpro was 16:21 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Andrew Embury = wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What about the 480? Did that not score between the 580 and 680? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd be very interested to see that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Andrew >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:28 AM, rendernyc w= rote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> interesting >>>>>>>>>> thats why we need more results... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the 680 tested in a z800 rendered in 17:34 >>>>>>>>>> a 580 in an 2008 mac pro was 15:07 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> GTX 680 - 2 GB VRAM - clock speed 1096 MHZ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> core i7 3930K (6 logical cores) overclocked to 4.7 gHZ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> render time : 13 min 5 seconds =3D 780 seconds >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> GTX 580 - 3 GB VRAM - clock speed 866 MHZ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> core i7 940 (4 cores) oc'd to 3.7 gHZ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> render time 13 min 50 seconds =3D 830 seconds >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So these results seem to imply there is a disk and / or CPU >>>>>>>>>>> bottleneck in your benchmark project, or there is something els= e going on. >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe RAM plays a factor. Because in my own benchmark tests wit= h a >>>>>>>>>>> different project, I get different results, where the GTX 580 i= s faster, >>>>>>>>>>> not the 680 in the faster machine. Interesting... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:07 AM, rendernyc wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> email sent >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dave Bittner < >>>>>>>>>>>> dave@pixelworkshop.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm running a flashed 470 from eBay. I'll run the test and >>>>>>>>>>>>> send you the results. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 5:41PM, rendernyc wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > yup, been testing lots of diff cards with the raytracer. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > want to run a test on your 570 for the chart? >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > have the 285, 480, 580, 680, q4000 and q4800 so far >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > was just saying that the only card someone from adobe could >>>>>>>>>>>>> "officially" talk about is the currently shipping q4000 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to < >>>>>>>>>>>>> ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Animator & Editor >>>>>>>>>>> www.teddygage.com >>>>>>>>>>> Brooklyn >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> danny princz >>>>>> >>>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> danny princz >>>>> >>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> danny princz >>> >>> exposedideas.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> danny princz >> >> exposedideas.com >> > > > > -- > danny princz > > exposedideas.com > > --=20 danny princz exposedideas.com --bcaec5015e77d944cc04c1f8de29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable working on that

heres a link to the current working doc<= /div>
https://docs.google.com/sprea= dsheet/ccc?key=3D0AlY-UawCfDQudEhQYWJsbUtRSVktZlFIR2xsSzFXMUE#gid=3D1


On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Gr= eg Bacon <bacon@stsci.edu> wrote:
By chance, is this information being posted on a site for viewing all = specs of the individual cards and the projects that were used (or descripti= on of test)? =A0This is an awesome resource. =A0Thanks!

Greg
=95= =95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95
Greg= Bacon
Sr. = Animator
Offi= ce of Public Outreach
Spac= e Telescope Science Institute
Balt= imore, Maryland 21218

From: Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.com>
Reply-To: After Effects Mail List &= lt;AE-List@med= ia-motion.tv>
Date: Friday, June 8, 2012 12:35 PM=
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-mot= ion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced r= enderer?

Wow. Alright, thanks!

////Greg Balint
///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer

On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:

did a little test with lloyd the other day that had some extuded text = with a reflective floor. 2008 macpro CPU render was abotu 15mins. he turned= on his 8800GT that is not supported and it rendered in about 7 mins. on a = q4000 the same scene took 37 seconds



On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:26 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmai= l.com> wrote:
CPU based render?


On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.co= m> wrote:
Danny, could you do a test for me on the same project file with the 58= 0 turned off? Just to see how much the Nvidia cards are helping the situati= on?

////Greg Balint
///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer

On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:16 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:

if ANYONE has one of the cards tested already or a different one and w= ouldnt mind popping off a render please email me so we can get more results

danny

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Andrew Embury <= span dir=3D"ltr"> <aembury@gmail.co= m> wrote:
Fantastic!

Thank you ever so much for doing this. This is truly phenomenal of the user= group to come together to make this all possible.

Cheers.

- Andrew


On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmai= l.com> wrote:
The 480 uses more power than the 5XX
im expecting the 570 to be about the same speed as the 480 while using= less power

waiting for some tests on that one


On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmai= l.com> wrote:
we had the 580 at 15:07=A0
so 480 was about 8% slower



On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Andrew Embury <= span dir=3D"ltr"> <aembury@gmail.co= m> wrote:
For the performance to cost ratio....WOW! That's phenomenal!

Now, the 580 is cutting that time by 3 minutes is that correct?

Cheers.

- Andrew


On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmai= l.com> wrote:
480 in a 12 core macpro was 16:21


On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Andrew Embury <= span dir=3D"ltr"> <aembury@gmail.co= m> wrote:
What about the 480? Did that not score between the 580 and 680?

I'd be very interested to see that.

Cheers.

- Andrew



On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:28 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmai= l.com> wrote:
interesting
thats why we need more results...

the 680 tested in a z800 rendered in 17:34
a 580 in an 2008 mac pro was 15:07


On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmai= l.com> wrote:
GTX 680 - 2 GB VRAM - clock speed 1096 MHZ

core i7 3930K (6 logical cores) overclocked to 4.7 gHZ

render time : 13 min 5 seconds =3D 780 seconds


GTX 580 - 3 GB VRAM - clock speed 866 MHZ

core i7 940 (4 cores) oc'd to 3.7 gHZ

render time 13 min 50 seconds =3D 830 seconds


So these results seem to imply there is a disk and / or CPU bottleneck in y= our benchmark project, or there is something else going on. Maybe RAM plays= a factor. Because in my own benchmark tests with a different project, I ge= t different results, where the GTX 580 is faster, not the 680 in the faster machine. Interesting...


On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:07 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmai= l.com> wrote:
email sent

thanks


On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dave Bittner <dave@pixelw= orkshop.com> wrote:
I'm running a flashed 470 from eBay. I'll run the test and send you= the results.

On Jun 7, 2012, at 5:41PM, rendernyc wrote:

> yup, been testing lots of diff cards with the raytracer.
> want to run a test on your 570 for the chart?
>
> have the 285, 480, 580, 680, q4000 and q4800 so far
>
> was just saying that the only card someone from adobe could "offi= cially" talk about is the currently shipping q4000


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