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| Sorry, I was rendering a DIFFERENT project! (These threads can be hard to follow...I rendered the Teddy Gage AEBENCHCS6 project, not Robot). I will be happy to test Robot if I can get the link -- but it's pretty clear what's going on -- the GTX5xx's are blowing the Q4000 away. Robert W. Walker Los Angeles robertwwalkervo.com walkerfitzgibbon.com > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer? - Same config, way > different results > From: rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> > Date: Fri, June 08, 2012 5:40 pm > To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> > > > 17:23 for the robot on a mac w single q4000? > did you render more than once? > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Robert W. Walker <robertw@walkersound.com>wrote: > > > Interesting: our MacPro 3,1 (2.8ghz) running AE 11.01 on OS 10.7.4, > > 32gb RAM with a Quadro 4000 just rendered the scene in 17:23. That same > > configuration on your machine took 45:23 according to the results > > spreadsheet? > > > > Robert W. Walker > > Los Angeles > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer? > > > From: rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> > > > Date: Fri, June 08, 2012 1:12 pm > > > To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> > > > > > > > > > Im not sure what you mean by explicity testing the GPU. > > > I didnt build this for benchmarking purposes but rather had it laying > > > around so just started testing some cards > > > > > > The comp is extruded shape layers with some lights, shadows, reflections, > > > motion blur and DoF being raytraced. > > > Its not relying on any outside footage or really doing anything else > > other > > > than rendering the 3d objects > > > its heavier than just some text, but if thats all that "you" will be > > using > > > the raytracer for than that would be a better benchmark. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > ah, just to clarify, the robot project took 48 min vs 13 - the > > AEBENCHCS6 > > > > is closer to 5 minutes on a gtx 580; I have to look up the exact times > > if > > > > anyone's interested > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Danny, I'm not convinced your scene is explicitly testing the GPU, > > have > > > >> you tried the benchmark file I posted a while ago? I'd be curious to > > see > > > >> your results on it. I actually did a migration test and I got the > > exact > > > >> same render times in two different machines with the same GPU. Not so > > with > > > >> this robot project... > > > >> > > > >> http://www.teddygage.com/AEBENCHCS6/ > > > >> > > > >> And Greg (Balint), using the CPU engine for raytrace, the above > > benchmark > > > >> project took 48 minutes vs. 13 minutes with GPU on, on a highly > > overclocked > > > >> core i7 3930K @ 4.7 ghz > > > >> > > > >> One thing is clear, the CS6 engine is optimized solely for GPUs. This > > is > > > >> significantly slower than any CPU renderer I use like mental ray or > > Vray, > > > >> for a scene an order of magnitude less complicated. However with GPU > > on it > > > >> is certainly comparable / possibly faster for some situations. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.com> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Wow. Alright, thanks! > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ////Greg Balint > > > >>> ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > > > >>> delRAZOR.com/ > > > >>> > > > >>> On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> did a little test with lloyd the other day that had some extuded text > > > >>> with a reflective floor. 2008 macpro CPU render was abotu 15mins. he > > turned > > > >>> on his 8800GT that is not supported and it rendered in about 7 mins. > > on a > > > >>> q4000 the same scene took 37 seconds > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:26 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> CPU based render? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.com> > > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Danny, could you do a test for me on the same project file with the > > > >>>>> 580 turned off? Just to see how much the Nvidia cards are helping > > the > > > >>>>> situation? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ////Greg Balint > > > >>>>> ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > > > >>>>> delRAZOR.com/ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:16 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> if ANYONE has one of the cards tested already or a different one > > and > > > >>>>> wouldnt mind popping off a render please email me so we can get > > more results > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> danny > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Andrew Embury <aembury@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Fantastic! > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Thank you ever so much for doing this. This is truly phenomenal of > > > >>>>>> the user group to come together to make this all possible. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Cheers. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> - Andrew > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> The 480 uses more power than the 5XX > > > >>>>>>> im expecting the 570 to be about the same speed as the 480 while > > > >>>>>>> using less power > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> waiting for some tests on that one > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> we had the 580 at 15:07 > > > >>>>>>>> so 480 was about 8% slower > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Andrew Embury < > > aembury@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> For the performance to cost ratio....WOW! That's phenomenal! > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Now, the 580 is cutting that time by 3 minutes is that correct? > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Cheers. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> - Andrew > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, rendernyc < > > rendernyc@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> 480 in a 12 core macpro was 16:21 > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Andrew Embury < > > aembury@gmail.com > > > >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> What about the 480? Did that not score between the 580 and > > 680? > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'd be very interested to see that. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - Andrew > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:28 AM, rendernyc < > > rendernyc@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> interesting > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> thats why we need more results... > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the 680 tested in a z800 rendered in 17:34 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> a 580 in an 2008 mac pro was 15:07 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Teddy Gage < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> teddygage@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> GTX 680 - 2 GB VRAM - clock speed 1096 MHZ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> core i7 3930K (6 logical cores) overclocked to 4.7 gHZ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> render time : 13 min 5 seconds = 780 seconds > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> GTX 580 - 3 GB VRAM - clock speed 866 MHZ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> core i7 940 (4 cores) oc'd to 3.7 gHZ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> render time 13 min 50 seconds = 830 seconds > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> So these results seem to imply there is a disk and / or CPU > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> bottleneck in your benchmark project, or there is > > something else going on. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe RAM plays a factor. Because in my own benchmark > > tests with a > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> different project, I get different results, where the GTX > > 580 is faster, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> not the 680 in the faster machine. Interesting... > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:07 AM, rendernyc < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> email sent > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dave Bittner < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dave@pixelworkshop.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm running a flashed 470 from eBay. I'll run the test > > and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send you the results. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 5:41PM, rendernyc wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > yup, been testing lots of diff cards with the > > raytracer. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > want to run a test on your 570 for the chart? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > have the 285, 480, 580, 680, q4000 and q4800 so far > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > was just saying that the only card someone from adobe > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could "officially" talk about is the currently shipping > > q4000 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +---End of message---+ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> danny princz > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposedideas.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Animator & Editor > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.teddygage.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Brooklyn > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> danny princz > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> exposedideas.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>> danny princz > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> exposedideas.com > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>> danny princz > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> exposedideas.com > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>> danny princz > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> exposedideas.com > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> -- > > > >>>>> danny princz > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> exposedideas.com > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> danny princz > > > >>>> > > > >>>> exposedideas.com > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> danny princz > > > >>> > > > >>> exposedideas.com > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Animator & Editor > > > >> www.teddygage.com > > > >> Brooklyn > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Animator & Editor > > > > www.teddygage.com > > > > Brooklyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > danny princz > > > > > > exposedideas.com > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> > > > > > > -- > danny princz > > exposedideas.com |
