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Ok. That's what I was wondering. There s some variation expected but that seemed crazy.
On Jun 8, 2012, at 6:22 PM, "Robert W. Walker" <robertw@walkersound.com> wrote:
> Sorry, I was rendering a DIFFERENT project! (These threads can be hard
> to follow...I rendered the Teddy Gage AEBENCHCS6 project, not Robot).
> I will be happy to test Robot if I can get the link -- but it's pretty
> clear what's going on -- the GTX5xx's are blowing the Q4000 away.
>
> Robert W. Walker
> Los Angeles
>
>
> robertwwalkervo.com
> walkerfitzgibbon.com
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer? - Same config, way
>> different results
>> From: rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, June 08, 2012 5:40 pm
>> To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
>>
>>
>> 17:23 for the robot on a mac w single q4000?
>> did you render more than once?
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Robert W. Walker <robertw@walkersound.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting: our MacPro 3,1 (2.8ghz) running AE 11.01 on OS 10.7.4,
>>> 32gb RAM with a Quadro 4000 just rendered the scene in 17:23. That same
>>> configuration on your machine took 45:23 according to the results
>>> spreadsheet?
>>>
>>> Robert W. Walker
>>> Los Angeles
>>>
>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer?
>>>> From: rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Fri, June 08, 2012 1:12 pm
>>>> To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Im not sure what you mean by explicity testing the GPU.
>>>> I didnt build this for benchmarking purposes but rather had it laying
>>>> around so just started testing some cards
>>>>
>>>> The comp is extruded shape layers with some lights, shadows, reflections,
>>>> motion blur and DoF being raytraced.
>>>> Its not relying on any outside footage or really doing anything else
>>> other
>>>> than rendering the 3d objects
>>>> its heavier than just some text, but if thats all that "you" will be
>>> using
>>>> the raytracer for than that would be a better benchmark.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ah, just to clarify, the robot project took 48 min vs 13 - the
>>> AEBENCHCS6
>>>>> is closer to 5 minutes on a gtx 580; I have to look up the exact times
>>> if
>>>>> anyone's interested
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Danny, I'm not convinced your scene is explicitly testing the GPU,
>>> have
>>>>>> you tried the benchmark file I posted a while ago? I'd be curious to
>>> see
>>>>>> your results on it. I actually did a migration test and I got the
>>> exact
>>>>>> same render times in two different machines with the same GPU. Not so
>>> with
>>>>>> this robot project...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.teddygage.com/AEBENCHCS6/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Greg (Balint), using the CPU engine for raytrace, the above
>>> benchmark
>>>>>> project took 48 minutes vs. 13 minutes with GPU on, on a highly
>>> overclocked
>>>>>> core i7 3930K @ 4.7 ghz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing is clear, the CS6 engine is optimized solely for GPUs. This
>>> is
>>>>>> significantly slower than any CPU renderer I use like mental ray or
>>> Vray,
>>>>>> for a scene an order of magnitude less complicated. However with GPU
>>> on it
>>>>>> is certainly comparable / possibly faster for some situations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow. Alright, thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ////Greg Balint
>>>>>>> ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
>>>>>>> delRAZOR.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> did a little test with lloyd the other day that had some extuded text
>>>>>>> with a reflective floor. 2008 macpro CPU render was abotu 15mins. he
>>> turned
>>>>>>> on his 8800GT that is not supported and it rendered in about 7 mins.
>>> on a
>>>>>>> q4000 the same scene took 37 seconds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:26 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CPU based render?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Danny, could you do a test for me on the same project file with the
>>>>>>>>> 580 turned off? Just to see how much the Nvidia cards are helping
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> situation?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ////Greg Balint
>>>>>>>>> ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
>>>>>>>>> delRAZOR.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:16 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if ANYONE has one of the cards tested already or a different one
>>> and
>>>>>>>>> wouldnt mind popping off a render please email me so we can get
>>> more results
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> danny
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Andrew Embury <aembury@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fantastic!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you ever so much for doing this. This is truly phenomenal of
>>>>>>>>>> the user group to come together to make this all possible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Andrew
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The 480 uses more power than the 5XX
>>>>>>>>>>> im expecting the 570 to be about the same speed as the 480 while
>>>>>>>>>>> using less power
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for some tests on that one
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> we had the 580 at 15:07
>>>>>>>>>>>> so 480 was about 8% slower
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Andrew Embury <
>>> aembury@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the performance to cost ratio....WOW! That's phenomenal!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, the 580 is cutting that time by 3 minutes is that correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Andrew
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, rendernyc <
>>> rendernyc@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 480 in a 12 core macpro was 16:21
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Andrew Embury <
>>> aembury@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about the 480? Did that not score between the 580 and
>>> 680?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd be very interested to see that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Andrew
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:28 AM, rendernyc <
>>> rendernyc@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thats why we need more results...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 680 tested in a z800 rendered in 17:34
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a 580 in an 2008 mac pro was 15:07
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Teddy Gage <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GTX 680 - 2 GB VRAM - clock speed 1096 MHZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> core i7 3930K (6 logical cores) overclocked to 4.7 gHZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> render time : 13 min 5 seconds = 780 seconds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GTX 580 - 3 GB VRAM - clock speed 866 MHZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> core i7 940 (4 cores) oc'd to 3.7 gHZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> render time 13 min 50 seconds = 830 seconds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So these results seem to imply there is a disk and / or CPU
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottleneck in your benchmark project, or there is
>>> something else going on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe RAM plays a factor. Because in my own benchmark
>>> tests with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different project, I get different results, where the GTX
>>> 580 is faster,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the 680 in the faster machine. Interesting...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:07 AM, rendernyc <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email sent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dave Bittner <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dave@pixelworkshop.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm running a flashed 470 from eBay. I'll run the test
>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send you the results.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 5:41PM, rendernyc wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yup, been testing lots of diff cards with the
>>> raytracer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to run a test on your 570 for the chart?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the 285, 480, 580, 680, q4000 and q4800 so far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was just saying that the only card someone from adobe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could "officially" talk about is the currently shipping
>>> q4000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.teddygage.com
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