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| Ok. That's what I was wondering. There s some variation expected but that seemed crazy. On Jun 8, 2012, at 6:22 PM, "Robert W. Walker" <robertw@walkersound.com> wrote: > Sorry, I was rendering a DIFFERENT project! (These threads can be hard > to follow...I rendered the Teddy Gage AEBENCHCS6 project, not Robot). > I will be happy to test Robot if I can get the link -- but it's pretty > clear what's going on -- the GTX5xx's are blowing the Q4000 away. > > Robert W. Walker > Los Angeles > > > robertwwalkervo.com > walkerfitzgibbon.com > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer? - Same config, way >> different results >> From: rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> >> Date: Fri, June 08, 2012 5:40 pm >> To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> >> >> >> 17:23 for the robot on a mac w single q4000? >> did you render more than once? >> >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Robert W. Walker <robertw@walkersound.com>wrote: >> >>> Interesting: our MacPro 3,1 (2.8ghz) running AE 11.01 on OS 10.7.4, >>> 32gb RAM with a Quadro 4000 just rendered the scene in 17:23. That same >>> configuration on your machine took 45:23 according to the results >>> spreadsheet? >>> >>> Robert W. Walker >>> Los Angeles >>> >>> >>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> Subject: Re: [AE] Why a raytraced renderer? >>>> From: rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Fri, June 08, 2012 1:12 pm >>>> To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> >>>> >>>> >>>> Im not sure what you mean by explicity testing the GPU. >>>> I didnt build this for benchmarking purposes but rather had it laying >>>> around so just started testing some cards >>>> >>>> The comp is extruded shape layers with some lights, shadows, reflections, >>>> motion blur and DoF being raytraced. >>>> Its not relying on any outside footage or really doing anything else >>> other >>>> than rendering the 3d objects >>>> its heavier than just some text, but if thats all that "you" will be >>> using >>>> the raytracer for than that would be a better benchmark. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> ah, just to clarify, the robot project took 48 min vs 13 - the >>> AEBENCHCS6 >>>>> is closer to 5 minutes on a gtx 580; I have to look up the exact times >>> if >>>>> anyone's interested >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Danny, I'm not convinced your scene is explicitly testing the GPU, >>> have >>>>>> you tried the benchmark file I posted a while ago? I'd be curious to >>> see >>>>>> your results on it. I actually did a migration test and I got the >>> exact >>>>>> same render times in two different machines with the same GPU. Not so >>> with >>>>>> this robot project... >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.teddygage.com/AEBENCHCS6/ >>>>>> >>>>>> And Greg (Balint), using the CPU engine for raytrace, the above >>> benchmark >>>>>> project took 48 minutes vs. 13 minutes with GPU on, on a highly >>> overclocked >>>>>> core i7 3930K @ 4.7 ghz >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing is clear, the CS6 engine is optimized solely for GPUs. This >>> is >>>>>> significantly slower than any CPU renderer I use like mental ray or >>> Vray, >>>>>> for a scene an order of magnitude less complicated. However with GPU >>> on it >>>>>> is certainly comparable / possibly faster for some situations. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow. Alright, thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ////Greg Balint >>>>>>> ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer >>>>>>> delRAZOR.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> did a little test with lloyd the other day that had some extuded text >>>>>>> with a reflective floor. 2008 macpro CPU render was abotu 15mins. he >>> turned >>>>>>> on his 8800GT that is not supported and it rendered in about 7 mins. >>> on a >>>>>>> q4000 the same scene took 37 seconds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:26 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CPU based render? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Danny, could you do a test for me on the same project file with the >>>>>>>>> 580 turned off? Just to see how much the Nvidia cards are helping >>> the >>>>>>>>> situation? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ////Greg Balint >>>>>>>>> ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer >>>>>>>>> delRAZOR.com/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:16 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> if ANYONE has one of the cards tested already or a different one >>> and >>>>>>>>> wouldnt mind popping off a render please email me so we can get >>> more results >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> danny >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Andrew Embury <aembury@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fantastic! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you ever so much for doing this. This is truly phenomenal of >>>>>>>>>> the user group to come together to make this all possible. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Andrew >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The 480 uses more power than the 5XX >>>>>>>>>>> im expecting the 570 to be about the same speed as the 480 while >>>>>>>>>>> using less power >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> waiting for some tests on that one >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> we had the 580 at 15:07 >>>>>>>>>>>> so 480 was about 8% slower >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Andrew Embury < >>> aembury@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For the performance to cost ratio....WOW! That's phenomenal! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, the 580 is cutting that time by 3 minutes is that correct? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Andrew >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, rendernyc < >>> rendernyc@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 480 in a 12 core macpro was 16:21 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Andrew Embury < >>> aembury@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about the 480? Did that not score between the 580 and >>> 680? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd be very interested to see that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Andrew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:28 AM, rendernyc < >>> rendernyc@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thats why we need more results... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 680 tested in a z800 rendered in 17:34 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a 580 in an 2008 mac pro was 15:07 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Teddy Gage < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teddygage@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GTX 680 - 2 GB VRAM - clock speed 1096 MHZ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> core i7 3930K (6 logical cores) overclocked to 4.7 gHZ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> render time : 13 min 5 seconds = 780 seconds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GTX 580 - 3 GB VRAM - clock speed 866 MHZ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> core i7 940 (4 cores) oc'd to 3.7 gHZ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> render time 13 min 50 seconds = 830 seconds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So these results seem to imply there is a disk and / or CPU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottleneck in your benchmark project, or there is >>> something else going on. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe RAM plays a factor. Because in my own benchmark >>> tests with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different project, I get different results, where the GTX >>> 580 is faster, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the 680 in the faster machine. Interesting... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:07 AM, rendernyc < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email sent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dave Bittner < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dave@pixelworkshop.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm running a flashed 470 from eBay. I'll run the test >>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send you the results. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 5:41PM, rendernyc wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yup, been testing lots of diff cards with the >>> raytracer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to run a test on your 570 for the chart? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the 285, 480, 580, 680, q4000 and q4800 so far >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was just saying that the only card someone from adobe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could "officially" talk about is the currently shipping >>> q4000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animator & Editor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.teddygage.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brooklyn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Animator & Editor >>>>>> www.teddygage.com >>>>>> Brooklyn >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Animator & Editor >>>>> www.teddygage.com >>>>> Brooklyn >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> danny princz >>>> >>>> exposedideas.com >>> >>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> danny princz >> >> exposedideas.com > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> |
