Return-Path: Received: from [69.93.154.15] (HELO gateway13.websitewelcome.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4743183 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:33:42 +0200 Received: by gateway13.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 6A02C80E1C538; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:36:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ham03.websitewelcome.com (ham.websitewelcome.com [173.192.100.229]) by gateway13.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3CF80E1C0FA for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:36:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: by ham03.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 666) id 37F7F37C8F542; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:36:21 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ham03.websitewelcome.com X-Spam-Flag2999: NO X-Spam-Level2999: X-Spam-Status2999: "No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from alpina.websitewelcome.com (alpina.websitewelcome.com [74.54.176.2]) by ham03.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C61B37C8F2C7 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:36:20 -0500 (CDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=crishdesign.com; h=Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-BWhitelist:X-Source:X-Source-Args:X-Source-Dir:X-Source-Sender:X-Source-Auth:X-Email-Count:X-Source-Cap; b=kLWc1RWf6BGyAGgRew4+bVHq5APKnKj4HsHrAQF5MTatY6iEeciy+I81+MDIBn735G2FZ+OjgkmLeK1FYHi2vSrlwlSaQhZoA+dAYSZNI0QmU48qYbV+VzVE94cbbh46; Received: from [199.21.106.94] (port=55618 helo=[192.168.0.7]) by alpina.websitewelcome.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SeCHb-0005fZ-RA for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:36:20 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] The Mac Pro is dead From: Chris Meyer In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:36:18 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3CE69749-0956-4DAD-8D84-4BD4A66A24E7@crishdesign.com> References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - alpina.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crishdesign.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.168.0.7]) [199.21.106.94]:55618 X-Source-Auth: chris@crishdesign.com X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7YWxwaW5hLndlYnNpdGV3ZWxjb21lLmNvbQ== On Jun 11, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Steve Oakley wrote: > 3rd parties are flashing nVidia cards with mac firmware and they work = except during boot up. Following the conversations up here, I was getting the (probably = mistaken) impression that after pre-installing the drivers that the = Windows cards worked out of box, except you didn't get to see the boot = screen; the eBay custom-flashed cards added the boot display hack. > the effort for them to support 480 / 580 /680 is pretty minimal. they = couldn't even go for a fews days of an engineer's time to tweak the = firmware for boot up ? Given that third parties are flashing the cards, rather than offering an = OS patch, I got the (again, perhaps mistaken) impression that = "officially supporting" those cards required the third parties to update = firmware to offer Mac versions, rather than rely completely on Apple. But I'm speculating based on what I'm skimming over on this list. Can = those who are running "Windows" cards on their Macs give us some = explicit details of exactly what they had to do, and what they have to = do without (like temp sensing in the power management - something else = that comes up with the eBay flashed cards)? Regardless, dismayed that Apple didn't at least add the Quadro 4000 to = their Built To Order options. - Chris