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[92.118.233.240]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n6sm1794860wie.7.2012.06.11.14.47.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD66789.2000608@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Evan Fotis Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:47:53 +0300 From: Evan Fotis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20080914 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.17 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] NEW Apple Macbook Pro 15" just announced - with kepler GPU References: In-Reply-To: X-TagToolbar-Keys: D20120612004753099 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080503080502000206050804" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080503080502000206050804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have and indeed it does look absolutely fantastic, and I'm all for new high res screens, especially to emulate printed material. But there first must be a major overhaul in all OS & apps to be resolution independent. In the current state of things ultra high res in small displays just makes it hard to use for productivity, with menus & text being too small & hard to read. On 11-Jun-12 23:24, Teddy Gage wrote: > If you have used the new iPad you'd know that comment doesn't hold > water. It's even more pixels, in higher density, on an even smaller > screen and it looks absolutely fantastic > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Evan Fotis > wrote: > > Using Kepler nvidia GT 650M for the macbook yet keeping 2 year old > Ati's for the macpro??? > > As for the retina display, at last IPS on a macbook pro, but $400 > overhead to the non retina version is a 24" IPS monitor itself.. > And as Stephen mentioned al these pixels are great but crammed in > 15 inches won't be very productive. > I had a 15" Dell Precision 1920x1200 once and I needed a > magnifying glass or glue to the screen to see what was going on ... > There is no option for antiglare for the retina model, just a note > in the features that it is antiglare? > > On 11-Jun-12 22:53, Gergely Szabo wrote: > > Same graphic card? :S > > I hoped there will be at least a smaller quadro card or other > Nvidia... > > Maybe I don't find the important information on the site but > no USB3? Thunderbolt? > > I guess the next hardware announcement will be an iMac like > the Z1 and after that they will kill the MacPro. > > > Stephen van Vuuren �rta: > > > > Looks awesome. I was hoping to hear something about an > updated (maybe rack-mountable) Mac Pro, but no such luck. > > I�m not sure if it�s awesome or not. That many pixels on a > 15� screen? Even with OS and app support, it may be just > amount to really expensive text smoothing. Other than > text, I�ve not seen really compelling usage models with > Retina screens in phones and tabs for photo and video. The > rest of the updates are not any different the myriad other > notebook announcements of late. > > Have to admit, even though I only Hackintosh as my primary > boxes are Win, I�m a surprised at no new Mac Pro. I mean, > I can understand not a whole new case etc. but dropping in > updated motherboard, PSU, CPUs, video, USB3 etc. would not > have been a very big effort for Apple. That�s not a great > sign as later summer and fall announcements for Apple are > probably iPhone related for holiday season. > > > I wonder if there is not some serious internal debate > about this since Ars Technica and other sites claimed to > have insider info on new Mac Pros. > > *stephen van vuuren* > > 336.202.4777 > > * * > > *http://www.sv2dcp.com/* > > *http://www.sv2studios.com/* > > *http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/* > > * * > > /A film is � or should be � more like music than like > fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. > The theme, what�s behind the emotion, the meaning, all > that comes later./ > > �*Stanley Kubrick* > > *From:* After Effects Mail List > [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv > ] *On Behalf Of *Russel > Fairley > *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 3:24 PM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] [OT] NEW Apple Macbook Pro 15" just > announced - with kepler GPU > > Looks awesome. I was hoping to hear something about an > updated (maybe rack-mountable) Mac Pro, but no such luck. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Byron Nash >> > *To:* After Effects Mail List > >> > *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 3:12:41 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AE] [OT] NEW Apple Macbook Pro 15" just > announced - with kepler GPU > > Love the resolution of that display. Pixels galore! > > No word on the Mac Pro's huh? > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Teddy Gage > > >> > wrote: > > http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/11/3078215/apple-stub-etc-whatevs > > looks amazing. retina display, ssd hard drive, quad core > i7 and a kepler 650 GT, with 7 hours of battery life. I'm > not much of an Apple guy for workstations but I do think > they make the best laptops in the industry. Glad I waited > to update my 2010 mbp. Also glad they decided to switch > back to nVidia graphics. > > -- > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > > Brooklyn > > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > > > -- > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn > --------------080503080502000206050804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have and indeed it does look absolutely fantastic, and I'm all for new high res screens, especially to emulate printed material.
But there first must be a major overhaul in all OS & apps to be resolution independent.
In the current state of things ultra high res in small displays just makes it hard to use for productivity, with menus & text being too small & hard to read.


On 11-Jun-12 23:24, Teddy Gage wrote:
If you have used the new iPad you'd know that comment doesn't hold water. It's even more pixels, in higher density, on an even smaller screen and it looks absolutely fantastic

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Evan Fotis <evan.fotis@gmail.com> wrote:
Using Kepler nvidia GT 650M for the macbook yet keeping 2 year old Ati's for the macpro???

As for the retina display, at last IPS on a macbook pro, but $400 overhead to the non retina version is a 24" IPS monitor itself..
And as Stephen mentioned al these pixels are great but crammed in 15 inches won't be very productive.
I had a 15" Dell Precision 1920x1200 once and I needed a magnifying glass or glue to the screen to see what was going on ...
There is no option for antiglare for the retina model, just a note in the features that it is antiglare?

On 11-Jun-12 22:53, Gergely Szabo wrote:
Same graphic card? :S

I hoped there will be at least a smaller quadro card or other Nvidia...

Maybe I don't find the important information on the site but no USB3? Thunderbolt?

I guess the next hardware announcement will be an iMac like the Z1 and after that they will kill the MacPro.


Stephen van Vuuren �rta:

> Looks awesome. I was hoping to hear something about an updated (maybe rack-mountable) Mac Pro, but no such luck.

I�m not sure if it�s awesome or not. That many pixels on a 15� screen? Even with OS and app support, it may be just amount to really expensive text smoothing. Other than text, I�ve not seen really compelling usage models with Retina screens in phones and tabs for photo and video. The rest of the updates are not any different the myriad other notebook announcements of late.

Have to admit, even though I only Hackintosh as my primary boxes are Win, I�m a surprised at no new Mac Pro. I mean, I can understand not a whole new case etc. but dropping in updated motherboard, PSU, CPUs, video, USB3 etc. would not have been a very big effort for Apple. That�s not a great sign as later summer and fall announcements for Apple are probably iPhone related for holiday season.


I wonder if there is not some serious internal debate about this since Ars Technica and other sites claimed to have insider info on new Mac Pros.

*stephen van vuuren*

336.202.4777

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*From:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] *On Behalf Of *Russel Fairley
*Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 3:24 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [AE] [OT] NEW Apple Macbook Pro 15" just announced - with kepler GPU

Looks awesome. I was hoping to hear something about an updated (maybe rack-mountable) Mac Pro, but no such luck.

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*Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 3:12:41 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AE] [OT] NEW Apple Macbook Pro 15" just announced - with kepler GPU

Love the resolution of that display. Pixels galore!

No word on the Mac Pro's huh?

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com <mailto:teddygage@gmail.com>> wrote:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/11/3078215/apple-stub-etc-whatevs

looks amazing. retina display, ssd hard drive, quad core i7 and a kepler 650 GT, with 7 hours of battery life. I'm not much of an Apple guy for workstations but I do think they make the best laptops in the industry. Glad I waited to update my 2010 mbp. Also glad they decided to switch back to nVidia graphics.

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