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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3422303544_7597113 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Evan, unless an application has been re-written for the retina display it will use pixel-doubling to look the same as on a non-retina display. Elliot Am 11/06/2012 23:47 schrieb "Evan Fotis" unter : > I have and indeed it does look absolutely fantastic, and I'm all for n= ew > high res screens, especially to emulate printed material. > But there first must be a major overhaul in all OS & apps to be resoluti= on > independent. > In the current state of things ultra high res in small displays just mak= es it > hard to use for productivity, with menus & text being too small & hard to > read. > =20 > =20 > On 11-Jun-12 23:24, Teddy Gage wrote: >> If you have used the new iPad you'd know that comment doesn't hold water= . >> It's even more pixels, in higher density, on an even smaller screen and = it >> looks absolutely fantastic >> =20 >> =20 >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Evan Fotis wrote= : >> =20 >>> Using Kepler nvidia GT 650M for the macbook yet keeping 2 year old Ati'= s for >>> the macpro??? >>> =20 >>> As for the retina display, at last IPS on a macbook pro, but $400 over= head >>> to the non retina version is a 24" IPS monitor itself.. >>> And as Stephen mentioned al these pixels are great but crammed in 15 i= nches >>> won't be very productive. >>> I had a 15" Dell Precision 1920x1200 once and I needed a magnifying gl= ass >>> or glue to the screen to see what was going on ... >>> There is no option for antiglare for the retina model, just a note in = the >>> features that it is antiglare? >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> On 11-Jun-12 22:53, Gergely Szabo wrote: >>> =20 >>>> Same graphic card? :S >>>> =20 >>>> I hoped there will be at least a smaller quadro card or other Nvidia.= .. >>>> =20 >>>> Maybe I don't find the important information on the site but no USB3? >>>> Thunderbolt? >>>> =20 >>>> I guess the next hardware announcement will be an iMac like the Z1 an= d >>>> after that they will kill the MacPro. >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>>> Stephen van Vuuren =EF=BF=BDrta: >>>> =20 >>>>> =20 >>>>>> > Looks awesome. I was hoping to hear something about an updated (m= aybe >>>>>> rack-mountable) Mac Pro, but no such luck. >>>>> =20 >>>>> I=EF=BF=BDm not sure if it=EF=BF=BDs awesome or not. That many pixels on a 15=EF=BF=BD= screen? >>>>> Even with OS and app support, it may be just amount to really expensi= ve >>>>> text smoothing. Other than text, I=EF=BF=BDve not seen really compelling us= age >>>>> models with Retina screens in phones and tabs for photo and video. Th= e >>>>> rest of the updates are not any different the myriad other notebook >>>>> announcements of late. >>>>> =20 >>>>> Have to admit, even though I only Hackintosh as my primary boxes are= Win, >>>>> I=EF=BF=BDm a surprised at no new Mac Pro. I mean, I can understand not a w= hole >>>>> new case etc. but dropping in updated motherboard, PSU, CPUs, video, = USB3 >>>>> etc. would not have been a very big effort for Apple. That=EF=BF=BDs not a = great >>>>> sign as later summer and fall announcements for Apple are probably iP= hone >>>>> related for holiday season. >>>>> =20 >>>>> =20 >>>>> I wonder if there is not some serious internal debate about this sin= ce >>>>> Ars Technica and other sites claimed to have insider info on new Mac = Pros. >>>>> =20 >>>>> *stephen van vuuren* >>>>> =20 >>>>> 336.202.4777 >>>>> =20 >>>>> * * >>>>> =20 >>>>> *http://www.sv2dcp.com/* >>>>> =20 >>>>> *http://www.sv2studios.com/* >>>>> =20 >>>>> *http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/* >>>>> =20 >>>>> * * >>>>> =20 >>>>> /A film is =EF=BF=BD or should be =EF=BF=BD more like music than like fiction. I= t should >>>>> be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=EF=BF=BDs behind th= e >>>>> emotion, the meaning, all that comes later./ >>>>> =20 >>>>> =EF=BF=BD*Stanley Kubrick* >>>>> =20 >>>>> *From:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Russel Fairley >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 3:24 PM >>>>> *To:* After Effects Mail List >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AE] [OT] NEW Apple Macbook Pro 15" just announced - = with >>>>> kepler GPU >>>>> =20 >>>>> Looks awesome. I was hoping to hear something about an updated (mayb= e >>>>> rack-mountable) Mac Pro, but no such luck. >>>>> =20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- >>>>> =20 >>>>> *From:* Byron Nash = > >>>>> *To:* After Effects Mail List >>>> > >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 3:12:41 PM >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AE] [OT] NEW Apple Macbook Pro 15" just announced - = with >>>>> kepler GPU >>>>> =20 >>>>> Love the resolution of that display. Pixels galore! >>>>> =20 >>>>> No word on the Mac Pro's huh? >>>>> =20 >>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Teddy Gage >>>> > wrote: >>>>> =20 >>>>> http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/11/3078215/apple-stub-etc-whatevs >>>>> =20 >>>>> looks amazing. retina display, ssd hard drive, quad core i7 and a ke= pler >>>>> 650 GT, with 7 hours of battery life. I'm not much of an Apple guy fo= r >>>>> workstations but I do think they make the best laptops in the industr= y. >>>>> Glad I waited to update my 2010 mbp. Also glad they decided to switch= back >>>>> to nVidia graphics. >>>>> =20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> Animator & Editor >>>>> www.teddygage.com >>>>> Brooklyn >>>>> =20 >>>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>>> +---End of message---+ >>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>> =20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> --=20 >> Animator & Editor >> www.teddygage.com >> Brooklyn >> =20 >> =20 > =20 --B_3422303544_7597113 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [AE] [OT] NEW Apple Macbook Pro 15" just announced - with k= epler GPU Evan, unless an application has been re-written for the retina display it = will use pixel-doubling to look the same as on a non-retina display.

Elliot


Am 11/06/2012 23:47 schrieb "Evan Fotis" unter <evan.fotis@gmail.com>:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>   I have and indeed it does look abso= lutely fantastic, and I'm all for new high res screens, especially to emulat= e printed material.
 But there first must be a major overhaul in all OS & apps to be r= esolution independent.
 In the current state of things ultra high res in small displays just = makes it hard to use for productivity, with menus & text being too small= & hard to read.
 
 
 On 11-Jun-12 23:24, Teddy Gage wrote:
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>If you have used the new iPad you'd know that co= mment doesn't hold water. It's even more pixels, in higher density, on an ev= en smaller screen and it looks absolutely fantastic
 
 
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Evan Fotis <evan.fotis@gmail.com> wrote:
 
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>Using Kepler nvidia GT 650M for the macbook yet = keeping 2 year old Ati's for the macpro???
 
 As for the retina display, at last IPS on a macbook pro, but $400 ove= rhead to the non retina version is a 24" IPS monitor itself..
 And as Stephen mentioned al these pixels are great but crammed in 15 = inches won't be very productive.
 I had a 15" Dell Precision 1920x1200 once and I needed a magnify= ing glass or glue to the screen to see what was going on ...
 There is no option for antiglare for the retina model, just a note in= the features that it is antiglare?
 

 On 11-Jun-12 22:53, Gergely Szabo wrote:
 
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'> Same graphic card? :S
 
 I hoped there will be at least a smaller quadro card or other Nvidia.= ..
 
 Maybe I don't find the important information on the site but no USB3?= Thunderbolt?
 
 I guess the next hardware announcement will be an iMac like the Z1 an= d after that they will kill the MacPro.
 
 
 Stephen van Vuuren =EF=BF=BDrta:
 
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>
 > Looks awesome. I was hoping to hear something about an updated (= maybe rack-mountable) Mac Pro, but no such luck.
 
 I=EF=BF=BDm not sure if it=EF=BF=BDs awesome or not. That many pixels on a 15=EF=BF=BD = screen? Even with OS and app support, it may be just amount to really expens= ive text smoothing. Other than text, I=EF=BF=BDve not seen really compelling usage= models with Retina screens in phones and tabs for photo and video. The rest= of the updates are not any different the myriad other notebook announcement= s of late.
 
 Have to admit, even though I only Hackintosh as my primary boxes are = Win, I=EF=BF=BDm a surprised at no new Mac Pro. I mean, I can understand not a who= le new case etc. but dropping in updated motherboard, PSU, CPUs, video, USB3= etc. would not have been a very big effort for Apple. That=EF=BF=BDs not a great = sign as later summer and fall announcements for Apple are probably iPhone re= lated for holiday season.
 
 
 I wonder if there is not some serious internal debate about this sinc= e Ars Technica and other sites claimed to have insider info on new Mac Pros.=
 
 *stephen van vuuren*
 
 336.202.4777 <tel:336.202.4777>
 
 * *
 
 *http://www.sv2dcp.com/*
 
 *http://www.sv2studios.com/*
 
 *http://www.outsideinthe= movie.com/*
 
 * *
 
 /A film is =EF=BF=BD or should be =EF=BF=BD more like music than like fiction. It= should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=EF=BF=BDs behind t= he emotion, the meaning, all that comes later./
 
 =EF=BF=BD*Stanley Kubrick*
 
 *From:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] *On Behalf Of *Russel Fairley
 *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 3:24 PM
 *To:* After Effects Mail List
 *Subject:* Re: [AE] [OT] NEW Apple Macbook Pro 15" just announce= d - with kepler GPU
 
 Looks awesome. I was hoping to hear something about an updated (maybe= rack-mountable) Mac Pro, but no such luck.
 
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 *From:* Byron Nash <byronnash@gmail.= com <mailto:byronnash@gmail.= com>>
 *To:* After Effects Mail List <A= E-List@media-motion.tv <= mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv>>
 *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 3:12:41 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [AE] [OT] NEW Apple Macbook Pro 15" just announce= d - with kepler GPU
 
 Love the resolution of that display. Pixels galore!
 
 No word on the Mac Pro's huh?
 
 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com <mailto:teddygage@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
 http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/11/3078215/apple-stub-etc-whatevs  
 looks amazing. retina display, ssd hard drive, quad core i7 and a kep= ler 650 GT, with 7 hours of battery life. I'm not much of an Apple guy for w= orkstations but I do think they make the best laptops in the industry. Glad = I waited to update my 2010 mbp. Also glad they decided to switch back to nVi= dia graphics.
 
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