Return-Path: Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.95] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4743471 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:07:34 +0200 Received: from mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.198]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q5C0A9Gw023634 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:10:09 -0400 Received: from lunette.home (pool-108-23-214-125.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.23.214.125]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id AD9BAE0000AC; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [AE] OT: PC Buying for Mac Users Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7F15A7A4-6221-4D19-A36B-13A9A8A6EF24" From: Tim Sassoon In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:10:07 -0700 Cc: Tim Sassoon Message-Id: References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1339459809; bh=BvNPQYyU5GwEtoZTlxWplHP36tRMyX9nQ3eCBUs1Km0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ZsSHt/C1Zt4x0zzf0z2SHAqH2puEC8/DdjD9hhofvM+ZafJKIVm+L87A2ZFJNIT79 NnNF36JKmvbCrQcBolXuCofNcHBSCQYeD+sBel+zMYA8h1DTO2IHtcd4NvWXcRlE7W iSBLLQkE7FCYkkWUgw+Ygju2ycl6qrrIGDGIQYxk= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:472758976:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c64fd688e058b8 X-AOL-IP: 108.23.214.125 --Apple-Mail=_7F15A7A4-6221-4D19-A36B-13A9A8A6EF24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 So you haven't bought into Hiero? Tim On Jun 11, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > Nuke and Fusion (and Autodesk Composite) are great at many things; but = I still find I use AE for finishing. However for open EXR handling and = stacking layers and merging hundreds of effects nodes, and building your = own effects, AE has nothing on node-based compositing. But I see AE as = the mastering suite to to these program's raw outputs. Doing any kind of = frame specific "editing" and effects timing (especially to music or VO) = is firmly in the AE domain.=20 >=20 > Here's a quick clip I did the other day using both Nuke and AE >=20 > http://youtu.be/lbsPem2a3u8?hd=3D1 >=20 > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Tim Sassoon wrote: > No, >=20 > AFAIK sucks for that, but I've been mostly doing VFX for a while now. >=20 >=20 > Tim Sassoon > SFD > Santa Monica, CA >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Alex Czetwertynski wrote: >=20 >> Do you see Nuke as a good Mograph tool? I've heard/seen great things = done by Fusion on the Mograph side, but have never touched it myself=85 >>=20 >> Alex >>=20 >> On Jun 11, 2012, at 7:49 PM, Tim Sassoon wrote: >>=20 >>> More likely Nuke. Lion will virtualize. Does that help installing on = non-Apple hardware? >>>=20 >>> Tim >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Alex Czetwertynski wrote: >>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 7:43 PM, James Culbertson wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> The main thing stopping me from buying a PC is that it only runs = Windows and I'm not ready to Hackintosh yet. >>>>=20 >>>> It will also run Linux. Devil's advocate hat on here=85I wonder if = the lack of MacPros on the market will entice Adobe to create a Linux = version, but I suppose it is highly unlikely >>>> Might be time to learn Fusion >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> +---End of message---+ >>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >> Be a fountain, not a drain >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn >=20 --Apple-Mail=_7F15A7A4-6221-4D19-A36B-13A9A8A6EF24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 So = you haven't bought into = Hiero?

Tim


On = Jun 11, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Teddy Gage wrote:

Nuke and = Fusion (and Autodesk Composite) are great at many things; but I still = find I use AE for finishing. However for open EXR handling and stacking = layers and merging hundreds of effects nodes, and building your own = effects, AE has nothing on node-based compositing. But I see AE as the = mastering suite to to these program's raw outputs. Doing any kind of = frame specific "editing" and effects timing (especially to music or VO) = is firmly in the AE domain.

Here's a quick clip I did the other day using both Nuke and = AE

http://youtu.be/lbsPem2a3u8?hd= =3D1

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:52 = PM, Tim Sassoon <tsassoon@aol.com> wrote:
No,

AFAIK sucks for = that, but I've been mostly doing VFX for a while now.


Tim Sassoon
SFD
Santa Monica, = CA



On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Alex Czetwertynski = wrote:

Do you see Nuke as a good Mograph tool? =  I've heard/seen great things done by Fusion on the Mograph side, = but have never touched it myself=85

Alex

On Jun 11, 2012, at 7:49 PM, = Tim Sassoon wrote:

More likely = Nuke. Lion will virtualize. Does that help installing on non-Apple = hardware?

Tim


On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Alex Czetwertynski = wrote:


On Jun 11, 2012, at 7:43 PM, James Culbertson = wrote:

The = main thing stopping me from buying a PC is that it only runs Windows and = I'm not ready to Hackintosh = yet.

It will also run Linux. =  Devil's advocate hat on here=85I wonder if the lack of MacPros on = the market will entice Adobe to create a Linux version, but I suppose it = is highly unlikely
Might be time to learn = Fusion


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