Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4743496 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:26:05 +0200 Received: from mbp-17.westell.com (50-55-11-251.waus.wi.frontiernet.net [50.55.11.251]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M4oHV-1RkM1l3PVF-00zJyI; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:28:43 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] PCs (was The Mac Pro is dead) From: Steve Oakley In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:28:40 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1F77DD82-DA65-4D47-AD56-1E6B1E3B2474@practicali.com> References: To: "After Effects Mail List" , X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:LxsWD3cWo502Fyrb0NAYQ2f2MLeC6ghucl0zTiV2bcC gzzlzq0BIHHY52Wnjd7ilKbyqEanTp8Ida4pdFWZIacZRVnsUH 3/A8usxCnZN6nY/GQTlyamkrZzLNzWMd3flDeG6oGvjs+1S6S+ f/LXZ6TWYW1f7H7HOCtLJQ6MpgH+RvtcUYIxgWD9Hv4uLjIf3E LWQ3v+UjB1XF67PGKuKMhD6Wm9PtFWr5ZCGwG6YRUguB8tbTdm Y6leOZacw8NSKXuqtNEnBDgSSpag4zIHXNER49syvSIjAecf80 YSYprsMxQe788Vs/H4AkRZ57oMOHcehu4c7H0x3G86/qlnCP2w kfHDCqsmAoNRJocjZElgcan4v6ht9ht62t2o/FSgLUYWq+Q54o jU9eO6iM0Kw2A== Win 7-64 Pro I set up networking as "home" setup with no domain controller ect. I = also got it to unjoin any home group... no love. machine will see = another win7 box, 2 enet connected printers, the router and thats it. it = will not see the NAS ( fedora 15, 10.7.4 macs, XP machine ) in the current state of affairs its back to not letting me loging with a = remote service procedure call failure. the services themselves that = cause this appear to be running... I also followed some info on = loosening up W7's network communucations stuff that is supposed to allow = logins to work... and I'm pretty sure the clocks are in sync ( another = cause of network login failure) I mean its just crazy this doesn't work out of the box... which XP = pretty much did S On Jun 11, 2012, at 6:07 PM, Stephen van Vuuren wrote: > Win 7 is just very secure - this a good thing. It's as least as secure = as > good Linux setup. Much better than XP and even Vista. >=20 > I recommend not using Homegroups. Using regular file-sharing and leave = the > security in place in an environment that has people coming in and out. = You > can relax a little bit if it's just your shop. >=20 > stephen van vuuren > 336.202.4777 >=20 > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ > http://www.sv2studios.com/ > http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/ >=20 > A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It = should be a > progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the = emotion, the > meaning, all that comes later. > -Stanley Kubrick >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of > Steve Oakley > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 6:59 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] PCs (was The Mac Pro is dead) >=20 >=20 > On Jun 11, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Alex Czetwertynski wrote: >=20 >> One thing that always bugged me about Windows is networking..What is = the > difference between a workgroup and a home group? Why do I care? = Can't I > just see whoever is connected to my router and choose to connect them = or > not? =20 >> Is there an easy way to do that on Windows? =20 >=20 > ya really if some one has a way of getting win 7 networking to = actually > work , ie to see and connect to ANY SMB share, not just win 7 ones, = I'm all > ears. Win7 is a nightmare for networking. its not even XP with a fancy = paint > job. it seems to have really jacked up permissions / user security = settings > . I have a clean install of win7 on a box and it won't even let me log = into > the nas even after I direct enter the IP as in \\x.y.z.a because it = won't > see anything. I have never ever had this many problems with PC boxes. = at > least XP would see the network... >=20 > S >=20 >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to