| Ok, I have been wondering how these screen will work, and now I can't wait to see these retina screens…. they must be amazing. I am really really happy to see this feature, the 1920x1200 resolution of my 17 inch mbp is hard to read and I  can't imagine wanting to read much on a 15 inch screen at that size…. 
 To me, this explains the death of the 17 form factor. Same resolution (better actually) in a lighter smaller faster more portable machine…. Just add monitor as before…. 
 Anyone seen these in Apple stores yet? 
 
 
 - chris 
 
 
-- chris bator interactive and motion design On Jun 12, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Evan Fotis wrote: 
  
    
  
  
    Default scaling will inevitably have a hit in performance. 
    Apparently not even at the native retina res there is no scaling:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5996/how-the-retina-display-macbook-pro-handles-scaling Apple offers five scaled settings including
      the default pixel doubled option: 1024 x 640, 1280 x 800, 1440 x
      900, 1680 x 1050 and 1920 x 1200. Selecting any of these options
      gives you the effective desktop resolution of the setting, but
      Apple actually renders the screen at a higher resolution and
      scales it to fit the 2880 x 1800 panel. As a result of the
      upscaled rendering, there can be a performance and quality impact.
      It's also worth noting there's no default option for 2880 x 1800,
      which is understandable given just how tiny text would be at that
      resolution. I suspect it won't be long before users figure out how
      to manually add a zero-scale, 2880 x 1800 option.  
    On 12-Jun-12 00:52, Elliot Steele wrote:
     
      Re: [AE] [OT] NEW Apple Macbook Pro 15" just announced -
        with kepler GPU
      Evan, unless an application has been
          re-written for the retina display it will use pixel-doubling
          to look the same as on a non-retina display.
 Elliot
 
 
 Am 11/06/2012 23:47 schrieb "Evan Fotis" unter <evan.fotis@gmail.com>:
 
 
    I have and indeed it does look
            absolutely fantastic, and I'm all for new high res screens,
            especially to emulate printed material.But there first must be a major overhaul in all OS &
            apps to be resolution independent.
 In the current state of things ultra high res in small
            displays just makes it hard to use for productivity, with
            menus & text being too small & hard to read.
 
 
 On 11-Jun-12 23:24, Teddy Gage wrote:
 
 If you have used the new iPad you'd
              know that comment doesn't hold water. It's even more
              pixels, in higher density, on an even smaller screen and
              it looks absolutely fantastic
 
 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Evan Fotis <evan.fotis@gmail.com>
              wrote:
 
 
 Using Kepler nvidia GT 650M for
                the macbook yet keeping 2 year old Ati's for the
                macpro???
 As for the retina display, at last IPS on a macbook
                pro, but $400 overhead to the non retina version is a
                24" IPS monitor itself..
 And as Stephen mentioned al these pixels are great but
                crammed in 15 inches won't be very productive.
 I had a 15" Dell Precision 1920x1200 once and I needed
                a magnifying glass or glue to the screen to see what was
                going on ...
 There is no option for antiglare for the retina model,
                just a note in the features that it is antiglare?
 
 
 On 11-Jun-12 22:53, Gergely Szabo wrote:
 
 
  Same graphic card? :S
 I hoped there will be at least a smaller quadro card
                  or other Nvidia...
 
 Maybe I don't find the important information on the
                  site but no USB3? Thunderbolt?
 
 I guess the next hardware announcement will be an
                  iMac like the Z1 and after that they will kill the
                  MacPro.
 
 
 Stephen van Vuuren �rta:
 
 
  > Looks awesome. I was hoping to hear something
                    about an updated (maybe rack-mountable) Mac Pro, but
                    no such luck.
 
 I�m not sure if it�s awesome or not. That many
                    pixels on a 15� screen? Even with OS and app
                    support, it may be just amount to really expensive
                    text smoothing. Other than text, I�ve not seen
                    really compelling usage models with Retina screens
                    in phones and tabs for photo and video. The rest of
                    the updates are not any different the myriad other
                    notebook announcements of late.
 
 Have to admit, even though I only Hackintosh as my
                    primary boxes are Win, I�m a surprised at no new Mac
                    Pro. I mean, I can understand not a whole new case
                    etc. but dropping in updated motherboard, PSU, CPUs,
                    video, USB3 etc. would not have been a very big
                    effort for Apple. That�s not a great sign as later
                    summer and fall announcements for Apple are probably
                    iPhone related for holiday season.
 
 
 I wonder if there is not some serious internal
                    debate about this since Ars Technica and other sites
                    claimed to have insider info on new Mac Pros.
 
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 Looks awesome. I was hoping to hear something about
                    an updated (maybe rack-mountable) Mac Pro, but no
                    such luck.
 
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 Love the resolution of that display. Pixels galore!
 
 No word on the Mac Pro's huh?
 
 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com
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                    wrote:
 
 http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/11/3078215/apple-stub-etc-whatevs
 
 looks amazing. retina display, ssd hard drive, quad
                    core i7 and a kepler 650 GT, with 7 hours of battery
                    life. I'm not much of an Apple guy for workstations
                    but I do think they make the best laptops in the
                    industry. Glad I waited to update my 2010 mbp. Also
                    glad they decided to switch back to nVidia graphics.
 
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