Return-Path: Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.213.151] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4745020 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 02:52:17 +0200 Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jun 2012 00:54:57 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.242] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jun 2012 00:54:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1051.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jun 2012 00:54:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 854772.16448.bm@omp1051.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 27792 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jun 2012 00:54:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1339548897; bh=3FS8oHO1M6WhQxooDqO8SrdRn+NmFSOYofv11m2irXY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P/I9pILQvKrbXXaKHWBVctbUiJd/tbQpVeA36U/16/MnB2O6ar6zTbqOucD1IUksA+5nuBbj5j6IRzWL46TfnTRKLxLOk4ZxmEWPWBBgsFmLhMJj3Z3ktaEaPhF6YTG1lOfkoEa6Dayx6m8q9QC5tkK8OINM8EVqhVcgWyq/+pI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vT4bw+Ppe69KNZl+fvn/LcycrjmG1/4mkz3zIjEsFOWr2pJ5WlCJo6D9CETrWisPngCXgcASZasAx1YGtjJOFr7mhwXJS/ZdEr2HJdkZzfdkOU3wQlDUC3+9Pjsf0JYtTr6FSicuRU9RzONV8zzRBMiwAA5LUE06op8EItV3ZXk=; X-YMail-OSG: IRoMdrwVM1l0gkLQc5m8LfjDy5YoeTW74h5je7yaLSv03tG 2mOiJqw.wmvmFFjqhtk6XsHmX1VCLOIE5UAxuxGqhyl1mcjSS59jKvlmurgx bxG28SW53hzUujVibqpPeH7Qeh5zSsxzPo6QkTZ1Y5FZSweKyIkoCvTkLrQz yPofFZdgXw6VcNSvaDe2ZZyQOGjsxoQv.fKmuCl9CiGaqJJXVnurrH8csHzN bEAYOLuL.OAorylCfbiaBUytrXfgX6Ncnqv5IVeEkPQFbBl4YYLGp0uhNfeQ TSu8quzA1a6AbOMrjasYGJSRKRYlbZ2Rn2QOLE3LiZWf5rTQ0acUBPzjCvJO 6H9hGp1ZnQf9K7bQHBvg4wOxFDSL2JHZ.Nzq26SPdxuWHkn3eWmf68.uW0IS d6FM0igdFuv_Y6uHiTfd2YqN7VDE_hTHMDYHd56ADUigemGP7JSuZwvCDDFh b7YmkA5bVUxhzbQlbEcVjd0EB_.VXawglp65ePHyi6vEO1FnTyO6TuoAKQq1 mPUDy43YQarXjS3xSSWSnpitClwjxAnM2FqiOVovzlpTQgcJjmfSXhnVk7JN Uv5w3GpHSlllJLMj7Nxglm6we1Op3k_zS.K4JkWfovcfkdl22wtZzOcdtooO 4oBYkUM9MIfMaZbfAM3nAfq0luIPqugBq3RWLZkfaMZblFoaNRxyv_rK7rSV mL8ocvQoEmlFZFTKAPhI- Received: from [76.67.97.91] by web162605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:54:57 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524 References: Message-ID: <1339548897.27263.YahooMailNeo@web162605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:54:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Russel Fairley Reply-To: Russel Fairley Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] The Mac Pro is dead To: After Effects Mail List , "stephen@sv2studios.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1157309285-2048710007-1339548897=:27263" --1157309285-2048710007-1339548897=:27263 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As much as I'm disappointed that the Mac Pro writing appears to be on the w= all, is anybody (who isn't necessarily at update time in their cycle) even = just a TEENSY bit relieved that there isn't any pressure to buy an "update-= or-be-left-behind" system?=A0 I would love a wildly updated Mac Pro too, an= d I hate that they're probably going to die off after this version, but I b= ought two monster Mac Pros last year and spent a bundle maxxing out on RAM,= peripherals and better video cards.=A0 I am happy to keep a few thou in th= e bank.=A0 =0A=0A=0ASo as much as it'd be cool to have a new one, at least = I don't look at them with the same disdain as I do my lovely-but-cooler-las= t-week MBP.=0A=0ATo those who really need to update, hopefully there will b= e some deals on the last round of MPs - they're great.=0A=0A=0A=0A_________= _______________________=0A From: Stephen van Vuuren =0ATo: After Effects Mail List =0ASent: Monday, = June 11, 2012 5:00:32 PM=0ASubject: Re: [AE] [OT] The Mac Pro is dead=0A = =0AI have to say, that "incremental upgrade" is a "do not buy" at the price= .=0AThat's a substantial downgrade from current shipping tech and missing= =0Ainternal and external SATA 6gb and Thunderbolt not mention old CPU tech.= =0AThey should have dropped the price 25-40% if that's what they are callin= g an=0Aupgrade. Clearly, they wanted to use all the same parts and not even= upgrade=0Athe motherboard firmware. That's a really, really lame "upgrade"= .=0A=0A> This MacPro could also just be a stopgap system. They might (or mi= ght=0Anot) roll out something better when Mountain Lion is released. They'v= e done=0Athat in the past.=0A=0AApple has almost never done that - they go = big or not at all.=A0 This looks a=0Alot like how they handled the demise o= f things like Shake, Logic on Windows,=0AFCP etc. Spring/Summer is typicall= y pro release window - everything from NAB=0Ato Adobe to many other vendors= avoid holiday season releases. I really=0Aexpected at least more update to= the Mac Pro given the engineering ease of=0Adoing it=0A=0Astephen van vuur= en=0A336.202.4777=0A=0Ahttp://www.sv2dcp.com/=0Ahttp://www.sv2studios.com/= =0Ahttp://www.outsideinthemovie.com/=0A=0AA film is - or should be - more l= ike music than like fiction. It should be a=0Aprogression of moods and feel= ings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, the=0Ameaning, all that comes l= ater.=0A-Stanley Kubrick=0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A+---End of message---+=0ATo unsubsc= ribe send any message to --1157309285-2048710007-1339548897=:27263 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As much as I'm disap= pointed that the Mac Pro writing appears to be on the wall, is anybody (who= isn't necessarily at update time in their cycle) even just a TEENSY bit relieved that there isn't any pre= ssure to buy an "update-or-be-left-behind" system?  I would love a wil= dly updated Mac Pro too, and I hate that they're probably going to die off = after this version, but I bought two monster Mac Pros last year and spent a= bundle maxxing out on RAM, peripherals and better video cards.  I am = happy to keep a few thou in the bank. 

So as much as it'd be cool to have a new one, at l= east I don't look at them with the same disdain as I do my lovely-but-coole= r-last-week MBP.

To those who really need to update, hopefully there will be some deals on the= last round of MPs - they're great.

= From: Stephen van Vuuren &= lt;stephen@sv2studios.com>
To:= After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 = 5:00:32 PM
Subject: Re= : [AE] [OT] The Mac Pro is dead

I have to say, that = "incremental upgrade" is a "do not buy" at the price.
That's a substanti= al downgrade from current shipping tech and missing
internal and externa= l SATA 6gb and Thunderbolt not mention old CPU tech.
They should have dropped the = price 25-40% if that's what they are calling an
upgrade. Clearly, they w= anted to use all the same parts and not even upgrade
the motherboard fir= mware. That's a really, really lame "upgrade".

> This MacPro coul= d also just be a stopgap system. They might (or might
not) roll out some= thing better when Mountain Lion is released. They've done
that in the pa= st.

Apple has almost never done that - they go big or not at all.&nb= sp; This looks a
lot like how they handled the demise of things like Sha= ke, Logic on Windows,
FCP etc. Spring/Summer is typically pro release wi= ndow - everything from NAB
to Adobe to many other vendors avoid holiday = season releases. I really
expected at least more update to the Mac Pro g= iven the engineering ease of
doing it

stephen van vuuren
336.2= 02.4777

http://www.sv2dcp.com/
http://www.sv2studios.com/
http://www.outsideint= hemovie.com/

A film is - or should be - more like music than lik= e fiction. It should be a
progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what's behind the emotion, the
meaning, all that comes later.
-Stanle= y Kubrick
>



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