Return-Path: Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.27.211] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4746105 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:15:01 +0200 Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MxnD1j0020S2fkCAByHjjx; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:17:43 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.91] ([98.248.191.112]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MyHi1j00L2RxYYa8VyHi17; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:17:43 +0000 From: "dennis@reelsolutions.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-29-541409628 Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] NEW Apple Macbook Pro 15" just announced - with kepler GPU Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:17:42 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-29-541409628 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Ok, I'll bite. Apple's pro line of laptops were originally black plastic, then = titanium, and as of 2003 aluminum. The "crappy white plastic laptops" = you refer to were the consumer/lower end models initially called iBooks = (later MacBook). These were typically highly rated by the way other than = one rev of them with higher than typical logic board failures, for which = Apple extended that versions warranty for the board out to 3 years. Maybe Apple made a decision not to offer a Quadro based laptop at that = time because their engineering team knew they couldn't design one under = their parameters/requirements - and they didn't want to build one that = would be constantly frying motherboards :) Apple has never made what some refer to as workstation-replacement = laptops; the market is very small and by design require major = compromises. I've had friends that have had them and under heavy usage = most of them sound like jet engines, have a battery life of as little as = 30 minutes, and weigh upwards of 8-10 pounds (not counting the power = brick). They are still not as powerful as a good workstation and are = limited to by the amount of RAM they can hold, hard-drive sizes and = speeds available, monitor choice, etc. I can see why Apple has avoided = entering that market. - Dennis Wilkins On Jun 13, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Stephen van Vuuren wrote: > >- must not have been an Apple laptop. IMO you can't compare any PC = laptop with an Apple laptop - they are built better > =20 > It was a IBM built ThinkPad when Apple was making crappy white plastic = laptops. It had a workstation class GPU (Quadro) when Apple offered = nothing like that. I dropped it down a flight of stairs and it did not = even power off. > =20 > stephen van vuuren > 336.202.4777 > =20 > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ > http://www.sv2studios.com/ > http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/ > =20 > A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It = should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s = behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. > =96Stanley Kubrick > =20 --Apple-Mail-29-541409628 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Ok, I'll bite.

Apple's pro line = of laptops were originally black plastic, then titanium, and as of 2003 = aluminum. The "crappy white plastic laptops"  you refer to were the = consumer/lower end models initially called iBooks (later MacBook). These = were typically highly rated by the way other than one rev of them with = higher than typical logic board failures, for which Apple extended that = versions warranty for the board out to 3 = years.

Maybe Apple made a decision not = to offer a Quadro based laptop at that time because their engineering = team knew they couldn't design one under their parameters/requirements - = and they didn't want to build one that would be constantly frying = motherboards :)

Apple has never made what some = refer to as workstation-replacement laptops; the market is very small = and by design require major compromises. I've had friends that have had = them and under heavy usage most of them sound like jet = engines, have a battery life of as little as 30 minutes, and weigh = upwards of 8-10 pounds (not counting the power brick). They are still = not as powerful as a good workstation and are limited to by the amount = of RAM they can hold, hard-drive sizes and speeds available, monitor = choice, etc. I can see why Apple has avoided entering that = market.

- Dennis = Wilkins



On Jun 13, = 2012, at 1:31 PM, Stephen van Vuuren wrote:

 
It was a IBM built ThinkPad when = Apple was making crappy white plastic laptops. It had a workstation = class GPU (Quadro) when Apple offered nothing like that. I dropped it = down a flight of stairs and  it did not even power = off.
stephen van vuuren