Return-Path: Received: from mail-gg0-f169.google.com ([209.85.161.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4746833 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:07:57 +0200 Received: by ggm4 with SMTP id 4so1419777ggm.28 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:10:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=iqVTkc0tzGYwXp11uTiRqpVtxxtYiu3SWYK7pjICfkM=; b=HV0y+tDJuNoXhFmBVaLPT7zro1lXBgEmGRDz/03Y/t0HEJMO6zLBOYKn3UD3za+1wr 6ockvcRCxJU3d0L6MP4n2jnVe2M+e0He2aRvmoJ45zcVHJ48czpIdn8EQSPPfSkXLcpC fPK08JlKuqvwXxj7/IRL6G4E/P7JdgGPEDmgDBvrrf1+ENY+kr+AWeVEx5z3yFdJy/Sf 45FBq+LYr4C1eOAySNuEfB4T/0bAQzqo556HITVSAhh4FoCtWtLKTNFIrGVF+lAkagbc P3kKdZ2xlHyyaWvUUYOlJanDEFTIfJwgUcdx0APG9/NYftN6Ba4zX2vtcswUssy5m5tQ 78Xw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.3.39 with SMTP id 7mr2238388oez.4.1339686639942; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.199.41 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.199.41 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:10:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:10:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] The Mac Pro is dead From: Teddy Gage To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f83ad2f48bca304c2701acb --e89a8f83ad2f48bca304c2701acb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Additionally, this is something people don't seem to understand, probably because we think we're very important: apples entire "pro" market sales for the year are worth less than ONE DAY of new iPad sales. And you really think they give a shit about the "pro" market? On Jun 14, 2012 11:05 AM, "Teddy Gage" wrote: > Lol. They do not have Mac pro render farms. Even pixar can't afford that. > Well they could but they'd be wasting money. They run Linux server clusters > with Intel hardware for rendering. Not to say they don't probably do a lot > of design work on osx > > > http://blogs.computerworld.com/pixars_rendering_software_big_on_linux_servers_not_mac > On Jun 14, 2012 9:29 AM, "James WIlson" wrote: > >> I've been semi following this thread and I can't help but wonder...isn't >> Pixar using Mac Pros to crank out all those frames? Why would Jobs ignore >> such money maker as the ongoing development of the power workflow for >> cinema? I mean there's just as much money in ticket sales, royalties, and >> merchandizing as any other product line so I wouldn't see why the MacPro >> development would fall by the wayside for volume iPhone and iPad sales >> alone unless they're just not using any of them. >> >> Perhaps someone here knows more about the inner workings of the Pixar. >> >> >> >> On Jun 14, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Scott Carmichael wrote: >> >> Anyone else wonder if Steve could have cared less about the high-end >> machines any more because they weren't high profile enough so they had >> been shelved as far as development resources? Maybe Tim is smart enough to >> realize that the "pros" actually are an important part of the market and >> put them back in the development pipeline. That is why they are so far out >> from being shipped. >> >> Scott >> >> On Jun 14, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Karl Newman wrote: >> >> On Jun 14, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Benny Christensen wrote: >> >> Well, first you have to have a TB hub so that you can attach your >> ethernet, storage adapters and monitor. >> >> >> Most TB devices can daisy-chain depending on the chip they used. >> Obviously an ethernet adaptor would need to be the end of the chain, or on >> the new Retina MBP it could be on a second port. >> >> One thing I haven't seen mentioned much is that you can daisy-chain two >> Apple Thunderbolt displays and have three monitors, including the MBP, >> running at once. >> >> >> Karl Newman >> Karl Newman Productions >> >> kwnewman@verizon.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --e89a8f83ad2f48bca304c2701acb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Additionally, this is something people don't seem to understand, pr= obably because we think we're very important: apples entire "pro&q= uot; market sales for the year are worth less than ONE DAY of new iPad sale= s. And you really think they give a shit about the "pro" market?<= /p>

On Jun 14, 2012 11:05 AM, "Teddy Gage"= <teddygage@gmail.com> wro= te:

Lol. They do not have Mac pro render farms. Even pixar can't afford = that. Well they could but they'd be wasting money. They run Linux serve= r clusters with Intel hardware for rendering. Not to say they don't pro= bably do a lot of design work on osx

http://blogs.computerworld.com/= pixars_rendering_software_big_on_linux_servers_not_mac

On Jun 14, 2012 9:29 AM, "James WIlson"= ; <lists@jwmm.com> wrote:
I've been semi following this threa= d and I can't help but wonder...isn't Pixar using Mac Pros to crank= out all those frames? Why would Jobs ignore such money maker as the ongoin= g development of the power workflow for cinema? I mean there's just as = much money in ticket sales, royalties, and merchandizing as any other produ= ct line so I wouldn't see why the MacPro development would fall by the = wayside for volume iPhone and iPad sales alone unless they're just not = using any of them.

Perhaps someone here knows more about the inner workings of = the Pixar.



On Jun 14,= 2012, at 9:14 AM, Scott Carmichael wrote:

Anyone else wonder if Steve could have = cared less about the high-end machines any more =A0because they weren't= high profile enough so they had been shelved as far as development resourc= es? =A0Maybe Tim is smart enough to realize that the "pros" actua= lly are an important part of the market and put them back in the developmen= t pipeline. =A0That is why they are so far out from being shipped.



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