Return-Path: Received: from nova.lunarpages.com ([67.210.126.175] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4746852 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:13:27 +0200 Received: from 70.91.57.77-busname-panjde.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([70.91.57.77]:47018 helo=[10.1.10.23]) by nova.lunarpages.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SfBmK-0000KJ-DS for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:16:08 -0700 From: James WIlson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-602514877 Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] musings on the future of Mac "Pro" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:16:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <76806A1D-1236-4A04-9BB8-A1DC190F5F61@jwmm.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - nova.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jwmm.com --Apple-Mail-6-602514877 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Was that available light? Stage light? Or did you light it up? We've = done 120 but lit the place for it. I haven't used the F3 but I had a = buddy send me some test footage from his but it wasn't really good for = making any kind of noise comparisons. Have you watched the Zacuto camera shoot out series? Good stuff. = http://www.zacuto.com/the-great-camera-shootout-2011 On Jun 14, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote: > True, but I just did a dance piece all shot 120fps on an Epic and a = Sony F3 with an HD finish and I thought the F3 looked better. The large = F3 pixels gather more light at those higher speeds and so the image has = less noise. The maximum image on the Epic was about 60 divisions and had = to be boosted to 100 divisions adding additional noise. Now the Epic = wasn't terribly noisy but I could certainly see the difference on a good = monitor.=20 >=20 > Jack Tunnicliffe > Java Post Production > www.javapost.ca >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jun 14, 2012, at 7:17 AM, James WIlson wrote: >=20 >> Not to mention that you can do 120 fps. >>=20 >> On Jun 13, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote: >>=20 >>> Working on a movie right now shot Epic 5K. Many shots are = repositioned and zoomed up as much as 200%. You can't do this with = something that's 1920x1080 in the first place. You can zoom in a little = but now 200% to make a single out of a wide shot.=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-6-602514877 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Was = that available light? Stage light? Or did you light it up? We've done = 120 but lit the place for it. I haven't used the F3 but I had a buddy = send me some test footage from his but it wasn't really good for making = any kind of noise comparisons.

Have you watched the = Zacuto camera shoot out series? Good stuff. http://www.z= acuto.com/the-great-camera-shootout-2011

On = Jun 14, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote:

True, but I just did a dance = piece all shot 120fps on an Epic and a Sony F3 with an HD finish and I = thought the F3 looked better. The large F3 pixels gather more light at = those higher speeds and so the image has less noise. The maximum image = on the Epic was about 60 divisions and had to be boosted to 100 = divisions adding additional noise. Now the Epic wasn't terribly noisy = but I could certainly see the difference on a good = monitor.

Jack Tunnicliffe
Java Post Production
www.javapost.ca

On Jun 14, 2012, at 7:17 AM, James WIlson wrote:

Not to mention that you can do = 120 fps.

On Jun 13, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Jack Tunnicliffe = wrote:

Working on a = movie right now shot Epic 5K. Many shots are repositioned and zoomed up = as much as 200%. You can't do this with something that's 1920x1080 in = the first place. You can zoom in a little but now 200% to make a single = out of a wide = shot.

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