Return-Path: Received: from host6.canaca.com ([66.49.160.142] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4746875 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:35:30 +0200 Received: from 207-195-100-23.regn.static.sasknet.sk.ca ([207.195.100.23] helo=[192.168.1.38]) by host6.canaca.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SfC7g-0000di-ES for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:38:12 -0400 From: Jack Tunnicliffe Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_284A5277-A9DB-40CD-984B-CDCF2E4703CE" Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] musings on the future of Mac "Pro" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:38:10 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host6.canaca.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - javapost.ca X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: --Apple-Mail=_284A5277-A9DB-40CD-984B-CDCF2E4703CE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It was properly lit but I have no idea what the light levels were. It = was shot by two experienced DP's but I also know it was low budget so = they may not have had what they wanted for lighting. One of the things = about the F3 is how it is recorded. If you shoot on a card it's 4-2-0. = If a cinedeck is used you can get 10 bit 4:4:4 S-Log. I'll have to check = out this link when I get chance. Thanks. Just too busy right now.=20 Jack Tunnicliffe Java Post Production www.javapost.ca On Jun 14, 2012, at 9:16 AM, James WIlson wrote: > Was that available light? Stage light? Or did you light it up? We've = done 120 but lit the place for it. I haven't used the F3 but I had a = buddy send me some test footage from his but it wasn't really good for = making any kind of noise comparisons. >=20 > Have you watched the Zacuto camera shoot out series? Good stuff. = http://www.zacuto.com/the-great-camera-shootout-2011 >=20 > On Jun 14, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote: >=20 >> True, but I just did a dance piece all shot 120fps on an Epic and a = Sony F3 with an HD finish and I thought the F3 looked better. The large = F3 pixels gather more light at those higher speeds and so the image has = less noise. The maximum image on the Epic was about 60 divisions and had = to be boosted to 100 divisions adding additional noise. Now the Epic = wasn't terribly noisy but I could certainly see the difference on a good = monitor.=20 >>=20 >> Jack Tunnicliffe >> Java Post Production >> www.javapost.ca >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jun 14, 2012, at 7:17 AM, James WIlson wrote: >>=20 >>> Not to mention that you can do 120 fps. >>>=20 >>> On Jun 13, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Working on a movie right now shot Epic 5K. Many shots are = repositioned and zoomed up as much as 200%. You can't do this with = something that's 1920x1080 in the first place. You can zoom in a little = but now 200% to make a single out of a wide shot.=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_284A5277-A9DB-40CD-984B-CDCF2E4703CE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii It = was properly lit but I have no idea what the light levels were. It was = shot by two experienced DP's but I also know it was low budget so they = may not have had what they wanted for lighting. One of the things about = the F3 is how it is recorded. If you shoot on a card it's 4-2-0. If a = cinedeck is used you can get 10 bit 4:4:4 S-Log. I'll have to check out = this link when I get chance. Thanks. Just too busy right = now.

Jack Tunnicliffe

Java Post Production

www.javapost.ca

On Jun 14, 2012, at 9:16 AM, James WIlson wrote:

Was that available light? Stage = light? Or did you light it up? We've done 120 but lit the place for it. = I haven't used the F3 but I had a buddy send me some test footage from = his but it wasn't really good for making any kind of noise = comparisons.

Have you watched the Zacuto camera shoot = out series? Good stuff. http://www.z= acuto.com/the-great-camera-shootout-2011

On = Jun 14, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote:

True, but I just did a dance = piece all shot 120fps on an Epic and a Sony F3 with an HD finish and I = thought the F3 looked better. The large F3 pixels gather more light at = those higher speeds and so the image has less noise. The maximum image = on the Epic was about 60 divisions and had to be boosted to 100 = divisions adding additional noise. Now the Epic wasn't terribly noisy = but I could certainly see the difference on a good = monitor.

Jack Tunnicliffe
Java Post Production
www.javapost.ca

On Jun 14, 2012, at 7:17 AM, James WIlson wrote:

Not to mention that you can do = 120 fps.

On Jun 13, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Jack Tunnicliffe = wrote:

Working on a = movie right now shot Epic 5K. Many shots are repositioned and zoomed up = as much as 200%. You can't do this with something that's 1920x1080 in = the first place. You can zoom in a little but now 200% to make a single = out of a wide = shot.

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