Return-Path: Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4746980 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:39:17 +0200 Received: by vbkv13 with SMTP id v13so1276490vbk.28 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:42:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dAw9qXZeyzOdP2YkOnEJx1xFX6pVswn6ClN6NsLu11o=; b=jCn9tVjXOwGpmEppjXxU+RTmUvCqfv9+NFfvnU6gMuj5DosytxKrm5qA7KHE6DX19Q 5++iCaLHNDpstRxEcwAMfS9XfkHTR7KDXtkUjzv/upusKmBBg2UOSwxRQplH267WdXMa Y2AXRAuA6CHPRSpvezNSBV6xuNQXs5YlQAjtD4hpZOK8HzMG7I1qQZl/++ATwvGXQBTD ltVaxl7YVuiHeiCbNQBZdC3qHY+Wg6gaQEVZD3pSF5xb1zCjYu+by4QMZYtpAcExccyj AK0yzUuq/j74XIptWAigDS8t7iIKvPTZC2vQT3vYH1PHYnDRcEIAvWshAAqVVZutuipY iaaw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.70.116 with SMTP id l20mr1203737vdu.19.1339692120886; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.35.5 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:42:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:42:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] The Mac Pro is dead From: Daniel Ramirez To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307abcfff94c1904c27160b3 --20cf307abcfff94c1904c27160b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 They've become the most valuable company in the entire world while semi-ignoring the pro market. let's face it, we got dumped, but are still pining. On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > Additionally, this is something people don't seem to understand, probably > because we think we're very important: apples entire "pro" market sales for > the year are worth less than ONE DAY of new iPad sales. And you really > think they give a shit about the "pro" market? > On Jun 14, 2012 11:05 AM, "Teddy Gage" wrote: > >> Lol. They do not have Mac pro render farms. Even pixar can't afford that. >> Well they could but they'd be wasting money. They run Linux server clusters >> with Intel hardware for rendering. Not to say they don't probably do a lot >> of design work on osx >> >> >> http://blogs.computerworld.com/pixars_rendering_software_big_on_linux_servers_not_mac >> On Jun 14, 2012 9:29 AM, "James WIlson" wrote: >> >>> I've been semi following this thread and I can't help but wonder...isn't >>> Pixar using Mac Pros to crank out all those frames? Why would Jobs ignore >>> such money maker as the ongoing development of the power workflow for >>> cinema? I mean there's just as much money in ticket sales, royalties, and >>> merchandizing as any other product line so I wouldn't see why the MacPro >>> development would fall by the wayside for volume iPhone and iPad sales >>> alone unless they're just not using any of them. >>> >>> Perhaps someone here knows more about the inner workings of the Pixar. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Scott Carmichael wrote: >>> >>> Anyone else wonder if Steve could have cared less about the high-end >>> machines any more because they weren't high profile enough so they had >>> been shelved as far as development resources? Maybe Tim is smart enough to >>> realize that the "pros" actually are an important part of the market and >>> put them back in the development pipeline. That is why they are so far out >>> from being shipped. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Karl Newman wrote: >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Benny Christensen wrote: >>> >>> Well, first you have to have a TB hub so that you can attach your >>> ethernet, storage adapters and monitor. >>> >>> >>> Most TB devices can daisy-chain depending on the chip they used. >>> Obviously an ethernet adaptor would need to be the end of the chain, or on >>> the new Retina MBP it could be on a second port. >>> >>> One thing I haven't seen mentioned much is that you can daisy-chain two >>> Apple Thunderbolt displays and have three monitors, including the MBP, >>> running at once. >>> >>> >>> Karl Newman >>> Karl Newman Productions >>> >>> kwnewman@verizon.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --20cf307abcfff94c1904c27160b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They've become the most valuable company in the entire world while semi= -ignoring the pro market. let's face it, we got dumped, but are still p= ining.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:10 AM, T= eddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

Additionally, this is something people d= on't seem to understand, probably because we think we're very impor= tant: apples entire "pro" market sales for the year are worth les= s than ONE DAY of new iPad sales. And you really think they give a shit abo= ut the "pro" market?

On Jun 14, 2012 11:05 AM, "Teddy Gage"= <teddygage@gma= il.com> wrote:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/= pixars_rendering_software_big_on_linux_servers_not_mac

On Jun 14, 2012 9:29 AM, "James WIlson"= ; <lists@jwmm.com> wrote:
I've been semi following this threa= d and I can't help but wonder...isn't Pixar using Mac Pros to crank= out all those frames? Why would Jobs ignore such money maker as the ongoin= g development of the power workflow for cinema? I mean there's just as = much money in ticket sales, royalties, and merchandizing as any other produ= ct line so I wouldn't see why the MacPro development would fall by the = wayside for volume iPhone and iPad sales alone unless they're just not = using any of them.

Perhaps someone here knows more about the inner workings of = the Pixar.



On Jun 14,= 2012, at 9:14 AM, Scott Carmichael wrote:

Anyone else wonder if Steve could have = cared less about the high-end machines any more =A0because they weren't= high profile enough so they had been shelved as far as development resourc= es? =A0Maybe Tim is smart enough to realize that the "pros" actua= lly are an important part of the market and put them back in the developmen= t pipeline. =A0That is why they are so far out from being shipped.



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