Return-Path: Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.95] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4747298 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:02:23 +0200 Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q5EL4wfb015740; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:04:58 -0400 Received: from lunette.home (pool-108-23-214-125.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.23.214.125]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 52F53E0000B3; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] The Mac Pro is dead Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D8EDCA76-6253-440B-9132-2C2E59BBE03D" From: Tim Sassoon In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:04:56 -0700 Cc: Tim Sassoon Message-Id: <00DC9E9E-8561-46D8-B503-F309339396DB@aol.com> References: To: "After Effects Mail List" , X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1339707898; bh=SiR1rsY7dDPgyFSEZ2ev3DrnIkHPa1GVHYeYVNzXxFU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=rMAyO0HFuziMffv9mRTG0EVusApjyeUFdWdkrjFm3MsvQLB1mnVZGGKjxvriyEfTj FvtnbokR0GkITqLc+7iJbDrhvQ98WQxXqPOXaklOQ81+ZlW6yR0eht26qcQwmVjrCi Xb9qnjUPNC/QfpMmTsd8c7FgzIxRKfgXXFYvk3ok= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:310460576:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29054fda51fa443d X-AOL-IP: 108.23.214.125 --Apple-Mail=_D8EDCA76-6253-440B-9132-2C2E59BBE03D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Commercially, the point is undoubtedly correct. You've got HP and Boxx = and whoever. But I wouldn't count on HP. Could we see a return to = SGI/Intergraph and HP-UX/Sun days, when a few companies had a clear lead = in professional workstations and were able to charge a LOT for it, or = will the "fleet of FIT's" make enough people happy enough that can't = happen again? Personally, I think the problem with the Monster Truck scenario are the = developers, the vast majority of whom are looking at mass markets, not a = few high-priced customers. Though there was that German company at NAB = that had $20K AE plug-in for tracking and point-clouding 3D scenes. I'm = very sorry to say I laughed in their faces when they told me the price, = and said we're not in the 1990's anymore. It was rude of me. IMHO you're also far better off reselling the fleet than the monster. I = remember having a hell of a time selling my DayStar MP800 all those = years ago. Nobody wanted it; I think I finally gave it to someone in = exchange for lunch. OTOH, I recently sold a bunch of 2yo Mini Servers = that went like hotcakes for 70% of the MSRP. Tim Sassoon Sassoon Film Design 2525 Main Street Suite 206 Santa Monica, CA 90405 W 310.664.9115 M 310.266.8630 On Jun 14, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Stephen van Vuuren wrote: > I suspect in the long run, Apple=92s point is that pros don=92t = matter. Some may argue that long run was this week. --Apple-Mail=_D8EDCA76-6253-440B-9132-2C2E59BBE03D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252

Personally, I think the problem with = the Monster Truck scenario are the developers, the vast majority of whom = are looking at mass markets, not a few high-priced customers. Though = there was that German company at NAB that had $20K AE plug-in for = tracking and point-clouding 3D scenes. I'm very sorry to say I laughed = in their faces when they told me the price, and said we're not in the = 1990's anymore. It was rude of me.

IMHO you're = also far better off reselling the fleet than the monster. I remember = having a hell of a time selling my DayStar MP800 all those years ago. = Nobody wanted it; I think I finally gave it to someone in exchange for = lunch. OTOH, I recently sold a bunch of 2yo Mini Servers that went like = hotcakes for 70% of the MSRP.

Tim = Sassoon
Sassoon Film Design
2525 Main Street
Suite 206
Santa = Monica, CA 90405
W 310.664.9115
M 310.266.8630

On Jun 14, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote:

I suspect in the = long run, Apple=92s point is that pros don=92t matter. Some may argue = that long run was this = week.

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