Return-Path: Received: from nm3-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.53] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4751959 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 23:41:50 +0200 Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2012 21:44:43 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.232] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2012 21:44:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2012 21:44:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 646271.33459.bm@omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 51341 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jun 2012 21:44:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1340142283; bh=3ymAfOeH0ssFcsktXORhglm0758s9W2ddv5LqonkaT4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0ywwDGidEglLl2s9HfgnQ5T0VbL7JZgmLlc5+HBt+JOCrlVmD+Zw/nXWYHJQ7NHYgzyFIXOcEOXETKeXib543r9lUbFDwOGdQPBb/+UncwNeLFDb6s1X5OL/1qjQkjjDc+TDyCUNoQgz+FQtYiNuIMDBgVNMH9TGqUR0db9nK8M= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lV7uXer9Ei3yzUZ0al2xc5JCZqv27+fvV5PgYr5tI9OYMtf5RFyxvGQlzFjWzxhjHyLAJryaWo+aLQk84gMMj+bvqz6HHoSW3c05AsS8bjq1chWGKxpdZTa20f7ZkXx8r+/wo/+sm5xjLHPlgTMDj2MmG2WY6mRfw234TLQ7SFY=; X-YMail-OSG: L8tXM00VM1mvJu5R1CUfJLoa1HSLxmql0yUt67RF.42dBkM LO_8jGDmjp0QWrGXEEnhCZYer6ILTlQtxFHIzMo3CFv26T9aCDgsY_NhUzbM So5FFUEkFKthpd6Lh1Kfph29T9kxWQOsT8BuyPtLcb3IbuviTAvEiHErmiQp Y0oklIGJqfJGdftUXmWJXsbSYDg3WTOOdjSLAOWIVIpA0hwrbWBQ.6yueaqV 1INyH4RyiXIXmxwTUy6mdL2jcMhD7Dah9YqBdVvFBD6KNwjP27XprLaKTCKz Cs4bOjqjAV86_S2Czvvpyd31kdNQtFUNt_GMtspjgNK5Gq7v2q7A1uL..oao 9NsWjIzSUTPtSAWczlHEpd7tMec1skR8teuVZIXc.ZpLNchqdSDXoo8GWcKu KA0xlUBRiRERQPDgQYIjg7kGh3HHyhrJ3aKr9EIPF_xSPNcay57UiwRxVT3A Y8KWeBKnNOSn9EajWw4Q8dCSGMRIba1sHPGQRCl6FsuxsdZ2yZxjv_VeGN.1 G.q7pU5zCyBobeBce6Mq3Tz8cgxysjJO9Z4nZrs.aHFuwzMO3TOLt8D9u74X EyCDzeEIRZt2j0g.UT_5d_H8gWXIM0O1rYPnIoA4NQDDJM07LwVCrN1mci24 Xh3QEd6dmGBZGz3Y_xR_rcv.kVbtQXselJKCPKADqSRXdFkDUglsicY..TBk Wbr3WPpuOLQ5fW_EI61XT9IFyWzHGDfiFwj_qAxJTNqGWXsavyKRiSdms.ta aDkI_FuX0JnfE4KTwZrDiJ5uGHefN0NFi.kjhDJaR39EZZ_6IMCt3.thlkjV Lpem1cyoy95TUUfNOpOunRAj2SRKOLxyVw3apiH69v.af3BPps9fSrgeKbZr ZGhClwMZ.G.jnuZS3 Received: from [149.169.132.254] by web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:44:42 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524 References: Message-ID: <1340142282.28952.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:44:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Behnke Reply-To: Robert Behnke Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 5570 3 monitors MDP cable to DP cable work? To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="737196383-1231026585-1340142282=:28952" --737196383-1231026585-1340142282=:28952 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greg, thanks for the link and all the info! That was another option I was l= ooking at. If the MPD to DP adapters do not work, then I will give those a = go. Not a big deal with the screen tearing, seems pretty minor. I am guessi= ng that I do not have eyefinity on the Mac either so I am not sure if that = will make things more or less complicated...=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0ARobert=0A=0A= =0A________________________________=0A From: Greg Balint =0ATo: After Effects Mail List =0ASent: Monday, = June 18, 2012 8:20 PM=0ASubject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 5570 3 monitors MDP= cable to DP cable work?=0A =0A=0AFYI.=C2=A0=0A=0ARunning on a pc here with= a 6970 card triple head.=C2=A0=0A=0AI bought this.=C2=A0=0A=0Ahttp://www.n= ewegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3D12-200-944=0A=0AThen hooked two monit= ors up via the 2 DVI ports on the back of the card, and connected the third= monitor using that adapter to DVI.=C2=A0=0A=0AWORD OF WARNING:=0ADepending= on how you setup the eyefinity/ desktop layout settings, for 3 screens you= 'll have screen tearing on either the monitor you use the adapter for, or t= he other two. ATI cards do not have a secondary frequency clock adjustment = for multiple monitors from what I've read. =C2=A0In other words, either you= r adapter fed monitor will be at a "wrong refresh rate" to try matching the= other two, or the other two will be the wrong ones to try matching the dis= playport one.=C2=A0=0A=0AIt's not horrible tearing or anything, but there i= s a noticeable line where when dragging windows around or watching video on= the screen it will be a fraction of a second behind the top portion of the= screen. Here's a video of the extent of the tearing while dragging a windo= w around.=C2=A0=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsaG2mr6qM_8=0A=0AMine, t= he line where the tear happens actually slowly moves down the screen, so it= 's not like it was avoidable for certain uses.=C2=A0=0A=0A=0AI set mine up = with the Adapter fed screen being the incorrect frequency, which allowed me= to put that one on my right, like in that video, and use it for documents,= photoshop, or whatever, while I work on the middle monitor with most of my= tools and timeline, and my left monitor has the comp viewer and effects pa= lette along the vertical near the middle monitor.=C2=A0=0A=0AAs far as I kn= ow, the only way not to get this to happen is to have a card with enough MD= P or DP jacks to feed your monitors correctly, or to buy a "plug into the w= all" powered hub that's like $130 that feeds 3 monitors via one MDP off of = the back of the card. =C2=A0=0A=0AHope this helps.=C2=A0=0A=0A=0A////Greg B= alint=0A///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer=0AdelRAZOR.com/=0A=0AOn = Jun 18, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Robert Behnke wrote:= =0A=0A=0AThanks. It is a Mac and replacing the current card is not an optio= n. I will just order either the cables or the adapters and see that happens= . If it doesn't work I will only be out 30.00 or so. =0A>=0A>=C2=A0=0A>Robe= rt=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Stephen van Vuuren= =0A>To: After Effects Mail List =0A>Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:23 PM=0A>Subject: Re: [AE] OT: R= adeon HD 5570 3 monitors MDP cable to DP cable work?=0A> =0A>=0A>> In my op= inion, I'd grab another nvidia card flashed to mac firmware (or not, it wil= l still work) instead of the ATI, like a gtx 580.=0A>=C2=A0=0A>Most nVidia = cards, including the GTX 580, only support 2 monitors at one time, no matte= r how many connections on the card. I have a second GPU for my third monito= r. The 680 does support 3 (and maybe another model) but if going nVidia, re= ad carefully.=0A>=C2=A0=0A>stephen van vuuren=0A>336.202.4777=0A>=C2=A0=0A>= http://www.sv2dcp.com/=0A>http://www.sv2studios.com/=0A>http://www.outsidei= nthemovie.com/=0A>=C2=A0=0A>A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more= like music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feel= ings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that c= omes later.=0A>=E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick=0A>=C2=A0=0A>=0A> --737196383-1231026585-1340142282=:28952 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greg, thanks for the link and all the info! That was another option I was= looking at. If the MPD to DP adapters do not work, then I will give those = a go. Not a big deal with the screen tearing, seems pretty minor. I am gues= sing that I do not have eyefinity on the Mac either so I am not sure= if that will make things more or less complicated... 
 
Robert
From: Greg Balint <greg@de= lrazor.com>
To: Aft= er Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 5570 3 = monitors MDP cable to DP cable work?

=0A
FYI. 

Running on= a pc here with a 6970 card triple head. 

I b= ought this. 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr= oduct.aspx?Item=3D12-200-944

Then hooked two monit= ors up via the 2 DVI ports on the back of the card, and connected the third= monitor using that adapter to DVI. 

WORD OF = WARNING:
Depending on how you setup the eyefinity/ desktop layout= settings, for 3 screens you'll have screen tearing on either the monitor y= ou use the adapter for, or the other two. ATI cards do not have a secondary= frequency clock adjustment for multiple monitors from what I've read. &nbs= p;In other words, either your adapter fed monitor will be at a "wrong refre= sh rate" to try matching the other two, or the other two will be the wrong = ones to try matching the displayport one. 

It's not horrible tearing or anything,= but there is a noticeable line where when dragging windows around or watch= ing video on the screen it will be a fraction of a second behind the top po= rtion of the screen. Here's a video of the extent of the tearing while drag= ging a window around. 

http://www.youtube.com/watc= h?v=3DsaG2mr6qM_8

Mine, the line where the tear ha= ppens actually slowly moves down the screen, so it's not like it was avoida= ble for certain uses. 

I set mine up with the A= dapter fed screen being the incorrect frequency, which allowed me to put th= at one on my right, like in that video, and use it for documents, photoshop= , or whatever, while I work on the middle monitor with most of my tools and= timeline, and my left monitor has the comp viewer and effects palette alon= g the vertical near the middle monitor. 

As far as I know, the only way not= to get this to happen is to have a card with enough MDP or DP jacks to fee= d your monitors correctly, or to buy a "plug into the wall" powered hub tha= t's like $130 that feeds 3 monitors via one MDP off of the back of the card= .  

Hope this helps. 


////Greg Balint
///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer

On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Rober= t Behnke <robert_behnke@ya= hoo.com> wrote:

Thanks. = It is a Mac and replacing the current card is not an option. I will just order either = the cables or the adapters and see that happens. If it doesn't work I will = only be out 30.00 or so.
 
Robert
<= /div>
From: Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com>
To= : After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:23 PM
Su= bject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 5570 3 monitors MDP cable to DP ca= ble work?

=0A
> In my opinion, I'd grab another nvidia card flashed to mac firmware (or n= ot, it will still work) instead of the ATI, like a gtx 580.
 
Most nVidia cards, including the GTX 580, only support 2 monito= rs at one time, no matter how many connections on the card. I have a second= GPU for my third monitor. The 680 does support 3 (and maybe another model)= but if going nVidia, read carefully.
 =
stephen van vuuren
336.202.4777
 
http://www.sv2dcp.com/
http://www.sv2studi= os.com/
http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/
 
A film is = =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fiction. It shou= ld be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind= the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.
=E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick
 

=
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