Return-Path: Received: from m1plsmtpa01-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.173] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4752137 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 03:42:08 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([173.247.4.230]) by m1plsmtpa01-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id QRl01j0024xm87901Rl1W2; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:45:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 5570 3 monitors MDP cable to DP cable work? References: From: Greg Balint Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2CD4AA86-3394-4F98-BFCC-380975722AE3 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:45:29 -0400 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-2CD4AA86-3394-4F98-BFCC-380975722AE3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 True. I didn't think about eyefinity not being on the mac.=20 The Mac should be able to handle the 3 displays just fine. Eyefinity does so= mething different, where it literally treats the 3 panels as just one screen= . Pop a background on the desktop and It's just one image all the way across. Etc.=20 I think the tearing only happens when in this mode, since it's trying to act= as one screen. The Mac will handle it as 3 screens as normal.=20 I do know for almost certain (99.9%) that a non powered mdp to dp adapter wi= ll NOT work. Which is why I had to go for the one I bought. Something about t= he card not having power to those ports to be able to do all 3 monitors. Aga= in. May slightly be only in eyefinity mode.=20 Good luck! ////Greg Balint ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer delRAZOR.com/ On Jun 19, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Robert Behnke wrote: > Greg, thanks for the link and all the info! That was another option I was l= ooking at. If the MPD to DP adapters do not work, then I will give those a g= o. Not a big deal with the screen tearing, seems pretty minor. I am guessing= that I do not have eyefinity on the Mac either so I am not sure if that wil= l make things more or less complicated...=20 > =20 > Robert > From: Greg Balint > To: After Effects Mail List =20 > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:20 PM > Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 5570 3 monitors MDP cable to DP cable work= ? >=20 > FYI.=20 >=20 > Running on a pc here with a 6970 card triple head.=20 >=20 > I bought this.=20 >=20 > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3D12-200-944 >=20 > Then hooked two monitors up via the 2 DVI ports on the back of the card, a= nd connected the third monitor using that adapter to DVI.=20 >=20 > WORD OF WARNING: > Depending on how you setup the eyefinity/ desktop layout settings, for 3 s= creens you'll have screen tearing on either the monitor you use the adapter f= or, or the other two. ATI cards do not have a secondary frequency clock adju= stment for multiple monitors from what I've read. In other words, either yo= ur adapter fed monitor will be at a "wrong refresh rate" to try matching the= other two, or the other two will be the wrong ones to try matching the disp= layport one.=20 >=20 > It's not horrible tearing or anything, but there is a noticeable line wher= e when dragging windows around or watching video on the screen it will be a f= raction of a second behind the top portion of the screen. Here's a video of t= he extent of the tearing while dragging a window around.=20 >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsaG2mr6qM_8 >=20 > Mine, the line where the tear happens actually slowly moves down the scree= n, so it's not like it was avoidable for certain uses.=20 >=20 > I set mine up with the Adapter fed screen being the incorrect frequency, w= hich allowed me to put that one on my right, like in that video, and use it f= or documents, photoshop, or whatever, while I work on the middle monitor wit= h most of my tools and timeline, and my left monitor has the comp viewer and= effects palette along the vertical near the middle monitor.=20 >=20 > As far as I know, the only way not to get this to happen is to have a card= with enough MDP or DP jacks to feed your monitors correctly, or to buy a "p= lug into the wall" powered hub that's like $130 that feeds 3 monitors via on= e MDP off of the back of the card. =20 >=20 > Hope this helps.=20 >=20 >=20 > ////Greg Balint > ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > delRAZOR.com/ >=20 > On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Robert Behnke wrot= e: >=20 >> Thanks. It is a Mac and replacing the current card is not an option. I wi= ll just order either the cables or the adapters and see that happens. If it d= oesn't work I will only be out 30.00 or so.=20 >> =20 >> Robert >> From: Stephen van Vuuren >> To: After Effects Mail List =20 >> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 5570 3 monitors MDP cable to DP cable wor= k? >>=20 >> > In my opinion, I'd grab another nvidia card flashed to mac firmware (or= not, it will still work) instead of the ATI, like a gtx 580. >> =20 >> Most nVidia cards, including the GTX 580, only support 2 monitors at one t= ime, no matter how many connections on the card. I have a second GPU for my t= hird monitor. The 680 does support 3 (and maybe another model) but if going n= Vidia, read carefully. >> =20 >> stephen van vuuren >> 336.202.4777 >> =20 >> http://www.sv2dcp.com/ >> http://www.sv2studios.com/ >> http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/ >> =20 >> A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fict= ion. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80= =99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. >> =E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick >> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-2CD4AA86-3394-4F98-BFCC-380975722AE3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
True. I didn't think about= eyefinity not being on the mac. 

The Mac shou= ld be able to handle the 3 displays just fine. Eyefinity does something diff= erent, where it literally treats the 3 panels as just one screen. Pop a back= ground on the desktop and
It's just one image all the way across. E= tc. 

I think the tearing only happens when in t= his mode, since it's trying to act as one screen.  The Mac will handle i= t as 3 screens as normal. 

I do know for almos= t certain (99.9%) that a non powered mdp to dp adapter will NOT work. Which i= s why I had to go for the one I bought. Something about the card not having p= ower to those ports to be able to do all 3 monitors. Again. May slightly be o= nly in eyefinity mode. 

Good luck!

////= Greg Balint
///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer

On Jun 19, 2= 012, at 5:44 PM, Robert Behnke <robert_behnke@yahoo.com> wrote:

Greg, thanks for the link and all the info! That was another option I= was looking at. If the MPD to DP adapters do not work, then I will give tho= se a go. Not a big deal with the screen tearing, seems pretty minor. I am gu= essing that I do not have eyefinity on the Mac either so I am not sur= e if that will make things more or less complicated... 
 
Robert
From: Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.com>
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-moti= on.tv>
Sent: Mo= nday, June 18, 2012 8:20 PM
Subjec= t: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 5570 3 monitors MDP cable to DP cable w= ork?

FYI. 

Running on a pc here with a 6970 card triple head. 

I bought this. 


Then hooked t= wo monitors up via the 2 DVI ports on the back of the card, and connected th= e third monitor using that adapter to DVI. 

WO= RD OF WARNING:
Depending on how you setup the eyefinity/ desktop l= ayout settings, for 3 screens you'll have screen tearing on either the monit= or you use the adapter for, or the other two. ATI cards do not have a second= ary frequency clock adjustment for multiple monitors from what I've read. &n= bsp;In other words, either your adapter fed monitor will be at a "wrong refr= esh rate" to try matching the other two, or the other two will be the wrong o= nes to try matching the displayport one. 

It's not horrible tearing or anything, b= ut there is a noticeable line where when dragging windows around or watching= video on the screen it will be a fraction of a second behind the top portio= n of the screen. Here's a video of the extent of the tearing while dragging a= window around. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsaG2mr6qM_8

Mine, the line where the tear happens actually slowly m= oves down the screen, so it's not like it was avoidable for certain uses.&nb= sp;

I set mine up with the Adapter fed screen being t= he incorrect frequency, which allowed me to put that one on my right, like i= n that video, and use it for documents, photoshop, or whatever, while I work= on the middle monitor with most of my tools and timeline, and my left monit= or has the comp viewer and effects palette along the vertical near the middl= e monitor. 

As far as I know, the only way not t= o get this to happen is to have a card with enough MDP or DP jacks to feed y= our monitors correctly, or to buy a "plug into the wall" powered hub that's l= ike $130 that feeds 3 monitors via one MDP off of the back of the card. &nbs= p;

Hope this helps. 

=
////Greg Balint
///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
delRAZO= R.com/

On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Robert Behnke &= lt;robert_behnke@yahoo.com&= gt; wrote:

Thanks. It is a Mac and replacing the current card is not an option. I will just order either t= he cables or the adapters and see that happens. If it doesn't work I will on= ly be out 30.00 or so.
 
Robert
From: S= tephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2= studios.com>
To: A= fter Effects Mail List <AE-L= ist@media-motion.tv>
Sent:<= /span> Monday, June 18, 2012 12:23 PM
Sub= ject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 5570 3 monitors MDP cable to DP cabl= e work?

> In my opinion, I'd grab another nvidia card flashed to mac firmware (or n= ot, it will still work) instead of the ATI, like a gtx 580.
 
Most nVidia cards, including the GTX 580, only support 2 monitors at= one time, no matter how many connections on the card. I have a second GPU f= or my third monitor. The 680 does support 3 (and maybe another model) but if= going nVidia, read carefully.
 
stephen van vuuren
336.202.4777
 
h= ttp://www.sv2dcp.com/
http://www.sv2studios.com/
 
A= film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fiction.= It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s= behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.
=E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick
 
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