Return-Path: Received: from nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.90.66] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4752975 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 01:00:27 +0200 Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jun 2012 23:03:22 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.253] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jun 2012 23:03:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1045.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jun 2012 23:03:22 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 584764.7932.bm@omp1045.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 54889 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jun 2012 23:03:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1340233402; bh=QuyqMzi4FkBob8/3ntmMXt0l2g21KnsPVsTfyACvAgs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PxFtgIIvxa99OMibHkvgk9M+PcdaMwLLPfu+wA4zp3y3Ho7kI+rCQ/F4OkSXXZDUZ3zws7a9b5R1CIg95bUeLYtgkaIBCttXmKvn89pXAkDVhvxCygOSlVsZa4Pi8JAEc+dku/n+sg/+jzQdwClxY+tYOnqJvWx5AIvAN8l2ct0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3h7LYWgpD64ymC+0QP/GftvFg36YEQxy6ivLCEf2m5E7GQyXdiMv/wLspzLu3+dCDysZEta0ijMaRYywioxTUSXROgHRHiExK0S7AdsBu1D1iqnfrLM0SvotGTdwmkjWkhonZf0lObiwaqr14D9hw3mFqmedXoYEF5jZrgS0eRY=; X-YMail-OSG: 1cMBm_UVM1mWglc9hy6UOGImB4t9Slgbcr2yuLOLnlj0sHB qpb9YSaAf_cAKwwjZjEhKIh6bv2iWI3S1nLTDpzDGx63NY80b_yLQmIfxZfH 46SSl5kNQ3tJVom0qcYhFkyPJAfS2ZUzBWFnFUife2gdRfWyh5QfJuH1NnGo OQeLvttwb32MHlmuaGWXbj4ExYYYfBPPdpdYTVoRD72pziOS1kCbcvRhBkwE LKuxD51IfOCrT0U2qx1DV3_cGKYm2aeSSEbwfHZAdJdFLHeODYx4GSJA6oJ9 Gjhx8ZUkTXYlP9xwhKKzrFrN9zDOTO2qP2ooUegu_6Pk7qRwtXQNw_3TOX6M GEJZHvo9qdcKOVR1.aweTv4V.rqgSMJ.nRgZlye0zvy8rxYfIYoYkPULngFO yHdVg6HrR2syyC2s_3KvOpu8486n_k4pEtsj8Ff1gKx9bIGfSCW..VH0Dg_u d2xKNX_zEHR.wB85.r29hFAzH9TQZv9kL0ZJ90IJ7ihUY.ak5223yIkZ8GJ4 2XzDbO_.x_FXngNSS5r1O9m9b_87th4wSAtcqwVdTpCEXLCUJJil9NJNuWI_ NVStPx.fbgOB4e5LDqk_7CifoujoRBJL_sewiExDWK6oI93ZFUavrVFH8p_l leDrq4jPYNFyYtAY.KQuJkrIg37cvpIjojtDPsW2mubj0C3Gxi2gFc6TYZ_L xsyIgKbW2eWvQk6HJIINNDGCsPbqtjnIwEgpm7XlTA.PyFtEcZ.EwnGb_kIw FDWPaAJI1UvwdnukKkmrTuDld4N9NrJWwFLe8qXmDO2AaVWAEykyC.1VjNgU GXM67o412uTrJMOp.MzUmJufWG.6It8KEAhpcWY_bvnskLg53WgoooLgEAQ5 .C2vV2Dt5.Mo6CnWHvJKugJUMyMsOzYLKVlTS.3qd_bn_FXcDbY3pBWj6igW t9TCgwq3eb1glyM5m Received: from [149.169.223.131] by web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:03:22 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524 References: Message-ID: <1340233402.53127.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:03:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Behnke Reply-To: Robert Behnke Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 5570 3 monitors MDP cable to DP cable work? To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1454997657-1072496200-1340233402=:53127" --1454997657-1072496200-1340233402=:53127 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greg, thanks again! =0A=0A=0AWhat is your take on the link below? It says t= o connect MDP to MDP. My monitors do not have MDP, but they do have DP. Are= DP and MDP that different? I to have been worried about the power issue.= =C2=A0=0Ahttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT4279=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0=0ARobert Behnke= =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Greg Balint =0ATo: After Effects Mail List =0ASent: Tu= esday, June 19, 2012 6:45 PM=0ASubject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 5570 3 monit= ors MDP cable to DP cable work?=0A =0A=0ATrue. I didn't think about eyefini= ty not being on the mac.=C2=A0=0A=0AThe Mac should be able to handle the 3 = displays just fine. Eyefinity does something different, where it literally = treats the 3 panels as just one screen. Pop a background on the desktop and= =0AIt's just one image all the way across. Etc.=C2=A0=0A=0AI think the tear= ing only happens when in this mode, since it's trying to act as one screen.= =C2=A0The Mac will handle it as 3 screens as normal.=C2=A0=0A=0AI do know = for almost certain (99.9%) that a non powered mdp to dp adapter will NOT wo= rk. Which is why I had to go for the one I bought. Something about the card= not having power to those ports to be able to do all 3 monitors. Again. Ma= y slightly be only in eyefinity mode.=C2=A0=0A=0AGood luck!=0A=0A////Greg B= alint=0A///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer=0AdelRAZOR.com/=0A=0AOn = Jun 19, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Robert Behnke wrote:=0A= =0A=0AGreg, thanks for the link and all the info! That was another option I= was looking at. If the MPD to DP adapters do not work, then I will give th= ose a go. Not a big deal with the screen tearing, seems pretty minor. I am = guessing that I do not have eyefinity on the Mac either so I am not sure if= that will make things more or less complicated...=C2=A0=0A>=C2=A0=0A>Rober= t=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Greg Balint =0A>To: After Effects Mail List =0A>S= ent: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:20 PM=0A>Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 5570 = 3 monitors MDP cable to DP cable work?=0A> =0A>=0A>FYI.=C2=A0=0A>=0A>=0A>Ru= nning on a pc here with a 6970 card triple head.=C2=A0=0A>=0A>=0A>I bought = this.=C2=A0=0A>=0A>=0A>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3D12= -200-944=0A>=0A>=0A>Then hooked two monitors up via the 2 DVI ports on the = back of the card, and connected the third monitor using that adapter to DVI= .=C2=A0=0A>=0A>=0A>WORD OF WARNING:=0A>Depending on how you setup the eyefi= nity/ desktop layout settings, for 3 screens you'll have screen tearing on = either the monitor you use the adapter for, or the other two. ATI cards do = not have a secondary frequency clock adjustment for multiple monitors from = what I've read. =C2=A0In other words, either your adapter fed monitor will = be at a "wrong refresh rate" to try matching the other two, or the other tw= o will be the wrong ones to try matching the displayport one.=C2=A0=0A>=0A>= =0A>It's not horrible tearing or anything, but there is a noticeable line w= here when dragging windows around or watching video on the screen it will b= e a fraction of a second behind the top portion of the screen. Here's a vid= eo of the extent of the tearing while dragging a window around.=C2=A0=0A>= =0A>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsaG2mr6qM_8=0A>=0A>=0A>Mine, the line = where the tear happens actually slowly moves down the screen, so it's not l= ike it was avoidable for certain uses.=C2=A0=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>I set mine up w= ith the Adapter fed screen being the incorrect frequency, which allowed me = to put that one on my right, like in that video, and use it for documents, = photoshop, or whatever, while I work on the middle monitor with most of my = tools and timeline, and my left monitor has the comp viewer and effects pal= ette along the vertical near the middle monitor.=C2=A0=0A>=0A>=0A>As far as= I know, the only way not to get this to happen is to have a card with enou= gh MDP or DP jacks to feed your monitors correctly, or to buy a "plug into = the wall" powered hub that's like $130 that feeds 3 monitors via one MDP of= f of the back of the card. =C2=A0=0A>=0A>=0A>Hope this helps.=C2=A0=0A>=0A>= =0A>=0A>////Greg Balint=0A>///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer=0A>de= lRAZOR.com/=0A>=0A>On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Robert Behnke wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>Thanks. It is a Mac and replacing the curre= nt card is not an option. I will just order either the cables or the adapte= rs and see that happens. If it doesn't work I will only be out 30.00 or so.= =0A>>=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>Robert=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>________________________________= =0A>> From: Stephen van Vuuren =0A>>To: After Effec= ts Mail List =0A>>Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:= 23 PM=0A>>Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 5570 3 monitors MDP cable to DP c= able work?=0A>> =0A>>=0A>>> In my opinion, I'd grab another nvidia card fla= shed to mac firmware (or not, it will still work) instead of the ATI, like = a gtx 580.=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>Most nVidia cards, including the GTX 580, only su= pport 2 monitors at one time, no matter how many connections on the card. I= have a second GPU for my third monitor. The 680 does support 3 (and maybe = another model) but if going nVidia, read carefully.=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>stephen = van vuuren=0A>>336.202.4777=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>http://www.sv2dcp.com/=0A>>http:= //www.sv2studios.com/=0A>>http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>= A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fictio= n. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80= =99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.=0A>>=E2=80=93St= anley Kubrick=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>=0A>>=0A>=0A> --1454997657-1072496200-1340233402=:53127 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greg, thanks again!

What is your take on the link below? It says to connect MDP to MDP. My m= onitors do not have MDP, but they do have DP. Are DP and MDP that different= ? I to have been worried about the power issue. 

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4279


 
Robert Behnke
=
From: Greg Balint <greg@delrazor= .com>
To: After Eff= ects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon HD 55= 70 3 monitors MDP cable to DP cable work?

=0A
True. I didn't think about eyefinity not being o= n the mac. 

The Mac should be able to handle = the 3 displays just fine. Eyefinity does something different, where it lite= rally treats the 3 panels as just one screen. Pop a background on the deskt= op and
It's just one image all the way across. Etc. 

I think the tearing only happens when in this mode, since= it's trying to act as one screen.  The Mac will handle it as 3 screen= s as normal. 

I do know for almost certain (9= 9.9%) that a non powered mdp to dp adapter will NOT work. Which is why I ha= d to go for the one I bought. Something about the card not having power to = those ports to be able to do all 3 monitors. Again. May slightly be only in= eyefinity mode. 

Good luck!

////Greg = Balint
///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer

On Jun 19, 2012, at 5:44= PM, Robert Behnke <robert= _behnke@yahoo.com> wrote:

Greg, thanks for the link and all the info! That was another option I w= as looking at. If the MPD to DP adapters do not work, then I will give thos= e a go. Not a big deal with the screen tearing, seems pretty minor. I am gu= essing that I do not have eyefinity on the Mac either so I am not su= re if that will make things more or less complicated...  =
 
Robert
From: Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.com>
To: After Effects=0A Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:20 PM
<= b>Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Radeon= HD 5570 3 monitors MDP cable to DP cable work?

=0A<= div id=3D"yiv90767602">
FYI. 

R= unning on a pc here with a 6970 card triple head. 

I bought this. 

http://www.newegg.com/P= roduct/Product.aspx?Item=3D12-200-944

Then hooked = two monitors up via the 2 DVI ports on the back of the card, and connected = the third monitor using that adapter to DVI. 

WORD OF WARNING:
Depending on how you setup the eyefinity/ deskt= op layout settings, for 3 screens you'll have screen tearing on either the = monitor you use the adapter for, or the other two. ATI cards do not have a = secondary frequency clock adjustment for multiple monitors from what I've r= ead.  In other words, either your adapter fed monitor will be at a "wr= ong refresh rate" to try matching the other two, or the other two will be t= he wrong ones to try matching the displayport=0A one. 

<= /div>
It's not horrible tearing or anything, but there is a noticeable = line where when dragging windows around or watching video on the screen it = will be a fraction of a second behind the top portion of the screen. Here's= a video of the extent of the tearing while dragging a window around. =

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsaG2mr6qM_8

Mine, the line where the tear happens actually slowly moves= down the screen, so it's not like it was avoidable for certain uses. =

I set mine up with the Adapter fed screen being the= incorrect frequency, which allowed me to put that one on my right, like in= that video, and use it for documents, photoshop, or whatever, while I work= on the middle monitor with most of my tools and timeline, and my left moni= tor has the comp viewer and effects palette along the vertical near the mid= dle=0A monitor. 

As far as I know, the only w= ay not to get this to happen is to have a card with enough MDP or DP jacks = to feed your monitors correctly, or to buy a "plug into the wall" powered h= ub that's like $130 that feeds 3 monitors via one MDP off of the back of th= e card.  

Hope this helps. 

////Greg Balint
///Art Director / Motion Graphics Desi= gner

On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:10 PM,= Robert Behnke <robert_beh= nke@yahoo.com> wrote:

Th= anks. It is a Mac=0A and replacing the current card is not an option. I wil= l just order either the cables or the adapters and see that happens. If it = doesn't work I will only be out 30.00 or so.
 
Robert
=
From: Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com>
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent:=0A Monday, June 18, 2012 12= :23 PM
Subject: Re: [AE= ] OT: Radeon HD 5570 3 monitors MDP cable to DP cable work?
=0A
= > In my opinion, I'd grab another nvidia card flashed to mac firm= ware (or not, it will still work) instead of the ATI, like a gtx 580.
 
Most nVidia cards, including the GTX 580, only support 2 = monitors at one time, no matter how many connections on the card. I have a = second GPU for my third monitor. The 680 does support 3 (and maybe another = model) but if going nVidia, read carefully.
 
stephen van vuuren
336.202.4777
 
http://www.sv2dcp.com/
http://www.sv2studios.com/<= /span>
http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/
 
A film is =E2= =80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fiction. It should = be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind th= e emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.
=E2= =80=93Stanley Kubrick
 


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