Return-Path: Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp010.mac.com ([17.158.161.9] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4753738 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:29:44 +0200 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Received: from [192.168.1.68] ([99.152.153.100]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp010.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M5Z007YH4IFOX30@nk11p00mm-asmtp010.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:32:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-21_03:2012-06-21,2012-06-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1206210149 Subject: Re: [AE] contracts, slightly OT From: Jim Curtis In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:32:39 -0500 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <0D1CA07B-C17B-4933-B246-55A135CEA24F@me.com> References: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) I have different kinds of clients. Some are small production companies = and agencies. Some huge corporations and non-profits. The latter ones = make me sign their PSA, and I always get paid on their schedule. It's = the small agencies who are the worst, and the most likely to either = nickel-and-dime me, take forever to pay, or dock my invoice for some = imagined shortcoming. I wish I could hold onto masters as a lien/security, but most projects = are time-sensitive, and that's seldom possible or practical. When I was in production, and on the hook for payments for film, = freelancers, meals, travel, etc., I demanded =E2=85=93 up front, =E2=85=93= upon completion of production, and balance upon delivery of master, = spelled out in a written agreement. But, now I'm strictly post. I do have a standard spiel for new clients: = I charge by the hour until a working relationship is established, so I = know what I'm getting into in terms of client involvement and working = methods. If they demand a bid, I tell them up front, I'm going to bid = double what I think the job will really require, to try to prevent = working for half price. Nothing is written. It says on my invoice that "Payment is due upon = receipt" (although many of them ignore this, and pay me after they get = paid). =20 I haven't been shafted since I cut an independent short for a so-called = "friend." On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:28 AM, henry birdseye wrote: > After reading the absolutely horrifying stories on The World's Longest = Invoice (http://worldslongestinvoice.tumblr.com/), I'm highly motivated = to require a contract with new customers. >=20 > How many of you are using contracts and do you have an example of one = that pertains directly to motion graphic work? >=20 > Thanks in advance. >=20 >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to