Return-Path: Received: from gateway01.websitewelcome.com ([69.56.224.19] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4755361 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 16:51:05 +0200 Received: by gateway01.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 5D0AA942F0532; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 09:54:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alpina.websitewelcome.com (alpina.websitewelcome.com [74.54.176.2]) by gateway01.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52ABF942F0510 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 09:54:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [199.21.106.94] (port=50448 helo=[192.168.0.12]) by alpina.websitewelcome.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SiRiu-0006Uv-Td for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 09:54:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [AE] [OT]: Please tell me why not to get a AMD Radeon 7970 References: From: Chris Meyer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6DDC37BB-DD62-4700-8BEC-2E20F3E5A4CD X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:54:10 -0600 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - alpina.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crishdesign.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.168.0.12]) [199.21.106.94]:50448 X-Source-Auth: chris@crishdesign.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7YWxwaW5hLndlYnNpdGV3ZWxjb21lLmNvbQ== --Apple-Mail-6DDC37BB-DD62-4700-8BEC-2E20F3E5A4CD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I love "experts" whose opinions are uncolored by actual experience. To say G= PU is an unnecessary function in AE or PPro shows just how uncolored (i.e. u= ninformed) his opinion is (smile). OTOH, if you're not using PPro, and don't anticipate using ray-tracing in AE= and will be doing all of your 3D work in C4D, it's not as important for you= .. - Chris On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:51 AM, "scott.aelist" wrote:= > I'm about to purchase a custom-build PC and am trying to decide on a graph= ics card. I want something that works well for AE and Cinema 4D. It seems th= at both these apps rely primarily on the CPU, and very little on the GPU. Al= l things being equal, I thought I would go with the Nvidia card because it s= upports the CS6 raytracing. But a guy on a forum is -quite- emphatic that I s= hould get this Radeon card. Can explain to me why he's wrong?=20 >=20 > our conversation went as follows: > -------------------------------------------- > RALPH: Buddy. The 670 is not a good card for workstations. NVidia basicall= y crippled the cuda performance on the 6xx line to make it better for gaming= . Get a 7970 instead, it has way more compute power. >=20 > ME: I want to go with the Nvidia because Radeon isn't fully supported by t= his program I use (After Effects.) Also, someone pointed out to me that most= of my concern should be the wait time on software rendering, so in my case i= t's more about the CPU. Anyhow it was helpful to know about the difference b= etween the GTX 6xx so I'll probably get a 5xx model. >=20 > RALPH: That's only mostly untrue. =46rom Adobe's system requirements page,= it says only that AMD cards don't support GPU acceleration, an unnecessary f= unction. Past that, you will get more power out of the 7970 as the CUDA core= s are nearly non-existant on the 6xx line, and the compute power on the 5xx= line isn't close to the 7970's. > --------------------------------------------- >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-6DDC37BB-DD62-4700-8BEC-2E20F3E5A4CD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I love "experts" whose opi= nions are uncolored by actual experience. To say GPU is an unnecessary funct= ion in AE or PPro shows just how uncolored (i.e. uninformed) his opinion is (= smile).

OTOH, if you're not using PPro, and don't a= nticipate using ray-tracing in AE and will be doing all of your 3D work in C= 4D, it's not as important for you.

 - Chris


On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:51 AM, "scott.aelist" <scott.aelist@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
I'm about to purchase= a custom-build PC and am trying to decide on a graphics card. I want someth= ing that works well for AE and Cinema 4D. It seems that both these apps rely= primarily on the CPU, and very little on the GPU. All things being equal, I= thought I would go with the Nvidia card because it supports the CS6 raytrac= ing. But a guy on a forum is -quite- emphatic that I should get this Radeon c= ard. Can explain to me why he's wrong?

our conversation went as follows:
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RALPH: Buddy. The 670 is not a good card for workstations. NVid= ia basically crippled=20 the cuda performance on the 6xx line to make it better for gaming. Get a 7970 instead, it has way more compute power.

ME: I want to g= o with the Nvidia because Radeon isn't fully supported by=20 this program I use (After Effects.) Also, someone pointed out to me that most of my concern should be the wait time on software=20 rendering, so in my case it's more about the CPU. Anyhow it was helpful=20 to know about the difference between the GTX 6xx so I'll probably get a=20 5xx model.

RALPH: That's only mostly untrue. =46rom Adobe's system requirements page, it says only that AMD cards don't support GPU acceleration, an=20 unnecessary function. Past that, you will get more power out of the 7970 as the CUDA cores are nearly non-existant on the 6xx line, and the=20 compute power on the 5xx line isn't close to the 7970's.
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