Return-Path: Received: from [208.84.113.138] (HELO aurora2.hosting4less.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4755458 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 20:02:57 +0200 Received: from anarchyjimPC (c-69-181-240-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.240.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by aurora2.hosting4less.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q5NICaNV000434 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:12:39 -0700 From: "Jim Tierney" To: "'After Effects Mail List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [AE] [OT]: Please tell me why not to get a AMD Radeon 7970 Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:05:54 -0700 Message-ID: <0d5201cd516a$d6cc5130$8464f390$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0D53_01CD5130.2A6D7930" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac1RDagVLC2fOEwrQ4+U+7Sr79AXtgAWhJFg Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0D53_01CD5130.2A6D7930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually there was a recent thread that went over which nvidia card is better, just search for "Benchmarking AE CUDA". Turns out the 5xx series is probably the better cards, or at least, no worse than the 6xx series. Thanks to Teddy Gage for doing that initial testing. On the PC, our two top cards that we test are the 7950 and the 570. It's for testing Beauty Box which is all OpenCL, so the CUDA stuff doesn't matter for us. The 7950 edges out the 570 in AE, but not by much (and again, we're just testing a 2D plugin, not using ray tracing). I assume if you had a 580 or 590 they'd be comparable or faster. In Premiere the 570 smokes the 7950. We may be using OpenCL but of course Premiere really uses CUDA and it makes a big difference having the nvidia card. Cheers, Jim ---------------------- Jim Tierney President Digital Anarchy http://www.digitalanarchy.com From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of scott.aelist Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:51 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: [AE] [OT]: Please tell me why not to get a AMD Radeon 7970 I'm about to purchase a custom-build PC and am trying to decide on a graphics card. I want something that works well for AE and Cinema 4D. It seems that both these apps rely primarily on the CPU, and very little on the GPU. All things being equal, I thought I would go with the Nvidia card because it supports the CS6 raytracing. But a guy on a forum is -quite- emphatic that I should get this Radeon card. Can explain to me why he's wrong? our conversation went as follows: -------------------------------------------- RALPH: Buddy. The 670 is not a good card for workstations. NVidia basically crippled the cuda performance on the 6xx line to make it better for gaming. Get a 7970 instead, it has way more compute power. ME: I want to go with the Nvidia because Radeon isn't fully supported by this program I use (After Effects.) Also, someone pointed out to me that most of my concern should be the wait time on software rendering, so in my case it's more about the CPU. Anyhow it was helpful to know about the difference between the GTX 6xx so I'll probably get a 5xx model. RALPH: That's only mostly untrue. From Adobe's system requirements page , it says only that AMD cards don't support GPU acceleration, an unnecessary function. Past that, you will get more power out of the 7970 as the CUDA cores are nearly non-existant on the 6xx line, and the compute power on the 5xx line isn't close to the 7970's. --------------------------------------------- ------=_NextPart_000_0D53_01CD5130.2A6D7930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Actually there was a recent thread that went over which nvidia card = is better, just search for  "Benchmarking AE CUDA". Turns = out the 5xx series is probably the better cards, or at least, no worse = than the 6xx series. Thanks to Teddy Gage for doing that initial = testing.

 

On the PC, our two top cards that we test are the 7950 and the 570. = It's for testing Beauty Box which is all OpenCL, so the CUDA stuff = doesn't matter for us. The 7950 edges out the 570 in AE, but not by much = (and again, we're just testing a 2D plugin, not using ray tracing). I = assume if you had a 580 or 590 they'd be comparable or faster. In = Premiere the 570 smokes the 7950. We may be using OpenCL but of course = Premiere really uses CUDA and it makes a big difference having the = nvidia card.

 

 

Cheers,

Jim

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Jim Tierney

President

Digital Anarchy

http://www.digitalanarchy.com

 

 

 

From:= = After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of = scott.aelist
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:51 = PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: [AE] [OT]: = Please tell me why not to get a AMD Radeon = 7970

 

I'm about to purchase a custom-build PC = and am trying to decide on a graphics card. I want something that works = well for AE and Cinema 4D. It seems that both these apps rely primarily = on the CPU, and very little on the GPU. All things being equal, I = thought I would go with the Nvidia card because it supports the CS6 = raytracing. But a guy on a forum is -quite- emphatic that I should get = this Radeon card. Can explain to me why he's wrong?

our = conversation went as = follows:
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RALPH: = Buddy. The 670 is not a good card for workstations. NVidia basically = crippled the cuda performance on the 6xx line to make it better for = gaming. Get a 7970 instead, it has way more compute = power.

ME: I want to go with the Nvidia because Radeon isn't = fully supported by this program I use (After Effects.) Also, someone = pointed out to me that most of my concern should be the wait time on = software rendering, so in my case it's more about the CPU. = Anyhow it was helpful to know about the difference between the GTX 6xx = so I'll probably get a 5xx model.

RALPH: That's only mostly = untrue. From Adobe= 's system requirements page, it says only that AMD cards don't = support GPU acceleration, an unnecessary function. Past that, you will = get more power out of the 7970 as the CUDA cores are nearly non-existant = on the 6xx line, and the compute power on the 5xx line isn't close to = the = 7970's.
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