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[24.193.167.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gb7sm5980994qab.12.2012.06.23.17.57.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 23 Jun 2012 17:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [AE] [OT]: Please tell me why not to get a AMD Radeon 7970 References: From: Rendernyc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-D21CC142-C982-4FE3-A104-F5AD72971DAB X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7600852B-163A-45DC-8322-B9D59F6D414E@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 20:57:24 -0400 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-D21CC142-C982-4FE3-A104-F5AD72971DAB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We have 14 configs now tested using a heavier benchmark file with higher ray= s that you would need for final rendering. Mostly single cards. A few duals.= And one triple 570 setup. Whats nice about the 570 in a macpro u should be o= k with just the original power supply.=20 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=3D0AuE_AZZfskx3dHotTzVGamhiUkIyST= UteGlzeG9xMEE&f=3Dtrue&noheader=3Dfalse&gid=3D2 On Jun 23, 2012, at 2:05 PM, "Jim Tierney" wrote: > Actually there was a recent thread that went over which nvidia card is bet= ter, just search for "Benchmarking AE CUDA". Turns out the 5xx series is pr= obably the better cards, or at least, no worse than the 6xx series. Thanks t= o Teddy Gage for doing that initial testing. > =20 > On the PC, our two top cards that we test are the 7950 and the 570. It's f= or testing Beauty Box which is all OpenCL, so the CUDA stuff doesn't matter f= or us. The 7950 edges out the 570 in AE, but not by much (and again, we're j= ust testing a 2D plugin, not using ray tracing). I assume if you had a 580 o= r 590 they'd be comparable or faster. In Premiere the 570 smokes the 7950. W= e may be using OpenCL but of course Premiere really uses CUDA and it makes a= big difference having the nvidia card. > =20 > =20 > Cheers, > Jim > ---------------------- > Jim Tierney > President > Digital Anarchy > http://www.digitalanarchy.com > =20 > =20 > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf O= f scott.aelist > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:51 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: [AE] [OT]: Please tell me why not to get a AMD Radeon 7970 > =20 > I'm about to purchase a custom-build PC and am trying to decide on a graph= ics card. I want something that works well for AE and Cinema 4D. It seems th= at both these apps rely primarily on the CPU, and very little on the GPU. Al= l things being equal, I thought I would go with the Nvidia card because it s= upports the CS6 raytracing. But a guy on a forum is -quite- emphatic that I s= hould get this Radeon card. Can explain to me why he's wrong?=20 >=20 > our conversation went as follows: > -------------------------------------------- > RALPH: Buddy. The 670 is not a good card for workstations. NVidia basicall= y crippled the cuda performance on the 6xx line to make it better for gaming= . Get a 7970 instead, it has way more compute power. >=20 > ME: I want to go with the Nvidia because Radeon isn't fully supported by t= his program I use (After Effects.) Also, someone pointed out to me that most= of my concern should be the wait time on software rendering, so in my case i= t's more about the CPU. Anyhow it was helpful to know about the difference b= etween the GTX 6xx so I'll probably get a 5xx model. >=20 > RALPH: That's only mostly untrue. =46rom Adobe's system requirements page,= it says only that AMD cards don't support GPU acceleration, an unnecessary f= unction. Past that, you will get more power out of the 7970 as the CUDA core= s are nearly non-existant on the 6xx line, and the compute power on the 5xx l= ine isn't close to the 7970's. > --------------------------------------------- >=20 --Apple-Mail-D21CC142-C982-4FE3-A104-F5AD72971DAB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
We have 14 configs now tes= ted using a heavier benchmark file with higher rays that you would need for f= inal rendering. Mostly single cards. A few duals. And one triple 570 setup. W= hats nice about the 570 in a macpro u should be ok with just the original po= wer supply. 




O= n Jun 23, 2012, at 2:05 PM, "Jim Tierney" <jim@digitalanarchy.com> wrote:

Actually there was a recent thread that w= ent over which nvidia card is better, just search for  "Benchmarking AE= CUDA". Turns out the 5xx series is probably the better cards, or at least, n= o worse than the 6xx series. Thanks to Teddy Gage for doing that initial tes= ting.

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On the PC, our two top cards that we test are the 7950 and the 570. It's fo= r testing Beauty Box which is all OpenCL, so the CUDA stuff doesn't matter f= or us. The 7950 edges out the 570 in AE, but not by much (and again, we're j= ust testing a 2D plugin, not using ray tracing). I assume if you had a 580 o= r 590 they'd be comparable or faster. In Premiere the 570 smokes the 7950. W= e may be using OpenCL but of course Premiere really uses CUDA and it makes a= big difference having the nvidia card.

 

 

Cheers,

Jim

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Digital Anarc= hy

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From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of scott.aelist
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:51 P= M
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: [AE] [OT]: Please= tell me why not to get a AMD Radeon 7970

 

I'm about to purchase a custom-build PC and am trying to deci= de on a graphics card. I want something that works well for AE and Cinema 4D= . It seems that both these apps rely primarily on the CPU, and very little o= n the GPU. All things being equal, I thought I would go with the Nvidia card= because it supports the CS6 raytracing. But a guy on a forum is -quite- emp= hatic that I should get this Radeon card. Can explain to me why he's wrong? <= br>
our conversation went as follows:
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RALPH: Buddy. The 670 is not a good card for workstations. N= Vidia basically crippled the cuda performance on the 6xx line to make it bet= ter for gaming. Get a 7970 instead, it has way more compute power.<= br>
ME: I want to go with the Nvidia because Radeon isn't fully supported= by this program I use (After Effects.) Also, someone pointed out to me that= most of my concern should be the wait time on software rendering, s= o in my case it's more about the CPU. Anyhow it was helpful to know about th= e difference between the GTX 6xx so I'll probably get a 5xx model.

RA= LPH: That's only mostly untrue. =46rom Adobe's system requirements page, it s= ays only that AMD cards don't support GPU acceleration, an unnecessary funct= ion. Past that, you will get more power out of the 7970 as the CUDA cores ar= e nearly non-existant on the 6xx line, and the compute power on the 5xx line= isn't close to the 7970's.
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