Return-Path: Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.16] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4757750 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 21:30:27 +0200 Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id T6hH1j0011zF43QA17ZZxD; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 19:33:33 +0000 Received: from sz0119.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.26.181]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id T7ZZ1j00E3uShJ48k7ZZzM; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 19:33:33 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 19:33:33 +0000 (UTC) From: pixelbot@comcast.net To: After Effects Mail List Message-ID: <848218746.1606066.1340739213229.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [AE] frame rate weirdness part deux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1606065_831342704.1340739213228" X-Originating-IP: [107.1.199.10] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Mac)/6.0.13_GA_2944) ------=_Part_1606065_831342704.1340739213228 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks - that's what I just figured out I was going the other way assuming that they were working in 29.97 and interpreting the footage as something like 37.4 which made no sense - then my boss mentioned well what if they assumed it was 23.976 (actually it looks like they assumed it was 24 FPS) and worked at that frame rate - and that's what it looks like they did. so thanks - we'll know better next time and mention the frame rate we are working in. timt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darby Edelen" To: "After Effects Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:18:51 PM Subject: Re: [AE] frame rate weirdness part deux 8:14 to 10:17 is a 5:4 ratio, which is the same ratio as 29.97:23.976. Probably not a coincidence. I've tried playing in DaVinci but I'm by no means an expert. Its supposed to be fairly smart at render, but i wouldn't be surprised if the timeline was set up for the wrong frame rate at the outset... perhaps DaVinci defaults to frame rate conversion at render. On Jun 26, 2012 12:00 PM, < pixelbot@comcast.net > wrote: ok a bit more weirdness on the files that 29.9625 FPS - I'm looking at the files we send and the files we received back, for example one of the files we sent was 8:14 @ 29.97 and it came back as 10:17 @ 29.9625. They only had the footage we gave them and they were color correcting on a software DaVinci. My only thought is they ingested the footage as some funky frame rate and then exported it at something close to 29.97. Does this even sound plausible to anyone who uses a DaVinci? any other ideas - just trying to track this down so that it doesn't happen again, don't want to go into this fight with a little more knowledge. Timt ------=_Part_1606065_831342704.1340739213228 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>thanks - = that's what I just figured out I was going the other way assuming that they= were working in 29.97 and interpreting the footage as something like 37.4 = which made no sense - then my boss mentioned well what if they assumed it w= as 23.976 (actually it looks like they assumed it was 24 FPS) and worked at= that frame rate - and that's what it looks like they did.

so thanks - we'll know better next time and mention the frame rate we ar= e working in.

timt

From= : "Darby Edelen" <dedelen@gmail.com>
To: "After Effects= Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2= 6, 2012 12:18:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] frame rate weirdness part d= eux

8:14 to 10:17 is a 5:4 ratio, which is the same ratio as 29.9= 7:23.976. Probably not a coincidence.

I've tried playing in DaVinci but I'm by no means an expert. Its suppose= d to be fairly smart at render, but i wouldn't be surprised if the timeline= was set up for the wrong frame rate at the outset... perhaps DaVinci defau= lts to frame rate conversion at render.

On Jun 26, 2012 12:00 PM, <pixelbot@comcast.net> wrote= :
ok a bit more weirdnes= s on the files that  29.9625 FPS - I'm looking at the files we send an= d the files we received back, for example one of the files we sent was 8:14= @ 29.97 and it came back as 10:17 @ 29.9625. They only had the footage we = gave them and they were color correcting on a software DaVinci. My only tho= ught is they ingested the footage as some funky frame rate and then exporte= d it at something close to 29.97. Does this even sound plausible to anyone = who uses a DaVinci? any other ideas - just trying to track this down so tha= t it doesn't happen again, don't want to go into this fight with a little m= ore knowledge.

Timt
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