Return-Path: Received: from out-62.smtp.ucla.edu ([169.232.46.172] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4764311 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 21:12:40 +0200 Received: from smtp-12.smtp.ucla.edu (smtp-12.smtp.ucla.edu [169.232.46.245]) by out-62.smtp.ucla.edu with ESMTP id q64JFekV008256; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 12:15:41 -0700 Received: from mail.ucla.edu (m2.mail.ucla.edu [128.97.27.130]) by smtp-12.smtp.ucla.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q64JFekV008256 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2012 12:15:41 -0700 Received: from [192.168.0.105] (adsl-69-231-56-102.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net [69.231.56.102]) (user=wheaton mech=PLAIN bits=0) by mail.ucla.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q64JFcxY002872 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2012 12:15:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [AE] OT NAS References: From: Warren Heaton at UCLA Extension Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-A638BC62-8C48-42C4-9BE4-F63BB2A40DF5 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 12:15:39 -0700 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Probable-Spam: no X-Spam-Hits: 2.425 X-Spam-Score: ** X-Spam-Report: HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,SPF_PASS X-Scanned-By: smtp.ucla.edu on 169.232.46.245 --Apple-Mail-A638BC62-8C48-42C4-9BE4-F63BB2A40DF5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 As far as network storage goes, I have always understood it to be the follow= ing: - If the network storage is NAS, then you have to move the media to local st= orage to edit it. - If the network storage is SAN, then you can edit the media directly. The difference has less to do with bandwidth and more to do with read/write a= ccess. I have freelanced at some post houses that try to set up user privelidges wi= th read only acces via AFP and SMB files sharing, but that never seems to wo= rk as well as SAN storage. -Warren Sent from my iPad On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Jonathan Penzner wrote: > I was working with a NAS a couple of months ago. The way it was explained t= o me was that several computers could link to it via ESata or GIGe network a= nd we'd be able to edit HD. That didn't work out too well. We ended up using= local drives to work and copied files back and forth over the network, whic= h was too slow as far as I was concerned. We couldn't figure out how to use t= he eSata port. >=20 > The NAS took about 5 minutes to boot up, took several people a few days to= make it work with a Mac and just seemed to take a lot of effort. Maybe that= was because the people I was working with were unfamiliar with the drive. >=20 > For my own purposes, working on a completely different project, I picked u= p a G Technologies Q-Raid: >=20 > http://www.g-technology.com/products/g-speed-q.cfm >=20 > It comes striped for Raid 5 but you can easily edit 1080 HD using the eSat= a port. Raid 0 is also supported which would boost the speed considerably, I= would think. It's plug and play and starts up quickly. >=20 > The size ranges from 4 to 12 T. For my single user situation, it was a goo= d choice. >=20 > I'd be interested to know which direction you go in and what your experien= ce is. >=20 >=20 > Jonathan >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:08 AM, James WIlson wrote: >=20 >> Hi, Does anyone use NAS drives with good results? >> I was looking at a couple yesterday and wasn't sure if it's worth it just= for backup and general asset storage, or maybe I should grab another G-RAID= (some flavor of). >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> Jim W. >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 > JONATHAN PENZNER > SUNDANCE/REALTIME > VIDEO EDITING =E2=80=A2 MOTION GRAPHICS =E2=80=A2 DESIGN >=20 > | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | > | CELL 818 321-2890 | >=20 > SUREAL@CHARTER.NET >=20 --Apple-Mail-A638BC62-8C48-42C4-9BE4-F63BB2A40DF5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
As far as network storage g= oes, I have always understood it to be the following:
- If the networ= k storage is NAS, then you have to move the media to local storage to edit i= t.
- If the network storage is SAN, then you can ed= it the media directly.

The difference ha= s less to do with bandwidth and more to do with read/write access.

I have freelanced at some post houses that try to set up use= r privelidges with read only acces via AFP and SMB files sharing, but that n= ever seems to work as well as SAN storage.



-Warren






Sent from my iPad

On Jul 2, 20= 12, at 10:50 AM, Jonathan Penzner <= sureal@charter.net> wrote:

I was working with a NAS a couple of months ago. The way it= was explained to me was that several computers could link to it via ESata o= r GIGe network and we'd be able to edit HD. That didn't work out too well. W= e ended up using local drives to work and copied files back and forth over t= he network, which was too slow as far as I was concerned. We couldn't figure= out how to use the eSata port.

The NAS took about 5= minutes to boot up, took several people a few days to make it work with a M= ac and just seemed to take a lot of effort. Maybe that was because the peopl= e I was working with were unfamiliar with the drive.

For my own purposes, working on a completely different project, I picked u= p a G Technologies Q-Raid:


It comes striped for Raid 5 but y= ou can easily edit 1080 HD using the eSata port. Raid 0 is also supported wh= ich would boost the speed considerably, I would think. It's plug and play an= d starts up quickly.

The size ranges from 4 to 12 T= . For my single user situation, it was a good choice.

I'd be interested to know which direction you go in and what your experie= nce is.


Jonathan



On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:08 AM, James WIlson wrot= e:

Hi, Does anyone use NAS drives with good results?
I was looking at a c= ouple yesterday and wasn't sure if it's worth it just for backup and general= asset storage, or maybe I should grab another G-RAID (some flavor of).
<= br>Thanks,

Jim W.
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