Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4780118 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:06:21 +0200 Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=nSwYzG3nL+YYqzdGadiYmA==:17 a=j74oHANl87gA:10 a=qy3df62GXmwA:10 a=6QVzGSgJaQ4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=n_cyjgRKAAAA:8 a=0NtdC1r0AAAA:8 a=9K2Qt5VQbM60cilnItgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Hiit177yz3gA:10 a=nsSnY4leyxTL_nYl:21 a=hu_6pHmMPVTA1fHm:21 a=nSwYzG3nL+YYqzdGadiYmA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.73.238.28 Received: from [24.73.238.28] ([24.73.238.28:52129] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D1/B6-17657-2A968005; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:10:10 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Cloud vs ordinary CS6 upgrade From: Dann Stubbs In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:10:09 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <24E384E3-9C61-4E5A-8715-ECFC03398DFF@darkskydigital.com> References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) personally i don't benefit from the whole cram everything into one = package mentality that adobe is copying from microsoft. it fostered competition in the market when each package stood on it's = own and you could buy another that filled the need better (or not) the bundle mentality of an industry giant does nothing but crowd out = most small developers who just can't compete when everyone who needs the = industry standard "photoshop" gets a bunch of other stuff included for = "free" already. it's hard to compete with something that is essentially = "free" and everyone has already. let's be real - adobe is a business... they are only in business to make = money - like most. i don't see the prices getting any less expensive = because they have the users best interest at heart. those executive = bonus' don't pay for themselves you know... i do see the benefit of small or home users now being able to "afford" = the subscription as a benefit - but it was not done out of generosity - = it was done to gain entry/grow market share in a new demographic. = nothing altruistic about it. once the bean counters run the numbers on the projected revenue stream - = the price will go up. a handful of years ago parking at disney was free, then a few dollars, = now it's like what $14 per car? to sit in their lot while you pay = another $100 per ticket to get in! this is adobe's parking lot fee... the new business mentality is everything is a revenue stream. the = subscription model will become no different... to act like it's not is = kinda silly. ___________________________________________________________________ Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm ___________________________________________________________________ On Jul 19, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote: > Wow. I try not to take things like this personally but... Is there = anything that we could do to prevent you from assuming the worst when = we're trying to create options that you'll actually benefit from? >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On >> Behalf Of Dann Stubbs >>=20 >> ding, ding, ding >>=20 >> give that man a prize >>=20 >> ___________________________________________________________________ >>=20 >> Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com >> Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com >>=20 >> http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm >> ___________________________________________________________________ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jul 19, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Mike Abbott wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> $599 per year for subscription version.. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> I wonder how long it will take for Adobe to start ramping up the >> annual >>> subscription cost - once we're all hooked ;) >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20