Return-Path: Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com ([216.32.181.185] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4780182 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:54:33 +0200 Received: from mail207-ch1-R.bigfish.com (10.43.68.251) by CH1EHSOBE015.bigfish.com (10.43.70.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:58:22 +0000 Received: from mail207-ch1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail207-ch1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F732C05CD for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:58:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:204.75.127.192;KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPV:NLI;H:N1-1EXC-BM07.corp.rhalf.com;RD:mailout-hide.rhi.com;EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -6 X-BigFish: VPS-6(zz98dI9371Ic85fh1b0bMzz1202hzz8275bh8275dhz2ei668h839hd25hf0ah107ah) Received-SPF: neutral (mail207-ch1: 204.75.127.192 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of rhi.com) client-ip=204.75.127.192; envelope-from=scott.tupper@rhi.com; helo=N1-1EXC-BM07.corp.rhalf.com ;rp.rhalf.com ; Received: from mail207-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail207-ch1 (MessageSwitch) id 1342731499672188_30824; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1EHSMHS017.bigfish.com (snatpool1.int.messaging.microsoft.com [10.43.68.253]) by mail207-ch1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DB5160044 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from N1-1EXC-BM07.corp.rhalf.com (204.75.127.192) by CH1EHSMHS017.bigfish.com (10.43.70.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:58:19 +0000 X-AuditID: 0af9124d-b7f696d000003729-a2-500874eab9b7 Received: from N1-1EXC-CAS03.na.msds.rhi.com (Unknown_Domain [10.246.225.11]) by N1-1EXC-BM07.corp.rhalf.com (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 04.51.14121.AE478005; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from N1-1EXC-MBX06N1.na.msds.rhi.com ([fe80::dcd9:cbf3:ecfa:933c]) by N1-1EXC-CAS03.na.msds.rhi.com ([fe80::9dc:79c0:8529:e80c%21]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:58:18 -0700 From: "Tupper, Scott (HQP)" To: 'After Effects Mail List' Subject: RE: [AE] Adobe Cloud vs ordinary CS6 upgrade Thread-Topic: [AE] Adobe Cloud vs ordinary CS6 upgrade Thread-Index: AQHNZeyAUlaQJpb6VUuNCkxyfDxx5pcxFYMA Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:58:17 +0000 Message-ID: <400A2F6AA78BA1449ABA2114F12AF69B02E8FD17@N1-1EXC-MBX06N1.na.msds.rhi.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.249.18.12] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_400A2F6AA78BA1449ABA2114F12AF69B02E8FD17N11EXCMBX06N1na_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Proxied X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprFIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXC9e0ht+6rEo4Ag+OPFS1uX4l3YPToenmJ LYAxissmJTUnsyy1SN8ugSvj1aQXzAXHwyoeHNvD2MC40q+LkZNDQsBE4sm6a6wQtpjEhXvr 2boYuTiEBK4wSiw9s4UJwjnHKDH3/AewKjYBI4lvH7eyg9giAuYSHza0s4DYwgKmEnc/zWCE iJtJHH57hLmLkQPINpJ49D4EJMwioCqx4OpFNhCbVyBMYv70brBWIQEtiSNX3oON5xTQlngx rwFsDCPQQd9PrWECsZkFxCVuPZnPBHGogMSSPeeZIWxRiZeP/0E9oCCxcw9Mfb7Ey7+P2CF2 CUqcnPmEBeQcCaA5i/dkTWAUnYVk6iwkHbOQdEDEdSQW7P7EBmFrSyxb+JoZxj5z4DETsvgC RvZVjNJ+hrqGrhHOuk6+BuZ6yflFBXpFGYk5aUBm7iZGUIz9FPLdwdizTP8QowAHoxIP7+Qk jgAh1sSy4srcQ4wSHMxKIrw5yUAh3pTEyqrUovz4otKc1OJDjNIcLErivInf2QKEBNITS1Kz U1MLUotgskwcnFINjLme1z71qeXJfvrhuWtD2P3qrlYlW6ZAWcfVcyN6qs6sm3Rbo5mPrabn 8lf7SzpbpX5wGgjI79sRZmW3x6whJUe4Y8Pn3k0mQrMNzygZC+v47MsXflYbwnE7UfLZtXca bEImsy2LP7AHi0XUPE6pnSVyZ0/PLO3apaoO/d1ms9sC2zcZyU9VYinOSDTUYi4qTgQALfEM D60CAAA= Return-Path: scott.tupper@rhi.com X-OriginatorOrg: rhi.com --_000_400A2F6AA78BA1449ABA2114F12AF69B02E8FD17N11EXCMBX06N1na_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just an FYI for those corporate folks out there. The issue I have been experiencing is during the initial download and insta= llation phase, our proxy server would keep blocking the authentication step= s, very annoying. Does anyone know how often this "phoning home" occurs? scott tupper | multimedia producer, media services robert half international From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of= Brian Behm Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:25 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Cloud vs ordinary CS6 upgrade Even an iOS upgrade is something that's only 'see' because it's tied to th= e phone contract. In the past people have had to pay for iOS upgrades on no= n-contract devices like iPod Touches. The joys of accounting regulations... Brian Behm Rooster Teeth Productions www.roosterteeth.com On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Todd Kopriva > wrote: It's a real restriction related to accounting regulations for publicly trad= ed companies and how revenue can be recognized. Your example of iOS doesn't= work because iOS is not something that you pay for. You do pay a small amo= unt for your feature-bearing updates to Mac OS, though not for the bug-fix = updates. Thank Enron. -- not getting enough of my blather? check out http://flabbyironman.blogspot.com or my portfolio at http://behmcreative.com --_000_400A2F6AA78BA1449ABA2114F12AF69B02E8FD17N11EXCMBX06N1na_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just an FYI for those cor= porate folks out there.

 <= /p>

The issue I have been exp= eriencing is during the initial download and installation phase, our proxy = server would keep blocking the authentication steps, very annoying.

 <= /p>

Does anyone know how ofte= n this “phoning home” occurs?

 <= /p>

scott tupper=  | multimedia producer, media services<= /b>

r= obert half international

 <= /p>

From: After Ef= fects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Brian Behm
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:25 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Cloud vs ordinary CS6 upgrade

 

Even an iOS upgrade is something that's only 'see' &= nbsp;because it's tied to the phone contract. In the past people have had t= o pay for iOS upgrades on non-contract devices like iPod Touches. The joys = of accounting regulations...

 

 

Brian Behm

Rooster Teeth Productions

www.roosterteeth.com

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Todd Kopriva <kopriva@adobe.com&= gt; wrote:

It's a real restriction related to accounting regula= tions for publicly traded companies and how revenue can be recognized. Your= example of iOS doesn't work because iOS is not something that you pay for.= You do pay a small amount for your feature-bearing updates to Mac OS, though not for the bug-fix updates.

Thank Enron.

 

--
not getting enough of my blather?
check out http://flabbyironma= n.blogspot.com
or my portfolio at http://behmcreative.= com

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