Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4781125 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:50:10 +0200 Received: from [10.1.1.22] (71-13-195-18.static.eucl.wi.charter.com [71.13.195.18]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LaGRy-1TZcML3e4k-00lKEL; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:54:01 -0400 From: Steve Oakley Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4B36FDE5-4CCA-4EC0-8F22-6C4268A89727" Subject: Re: [AE] Photoshop CS6 Issues Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:54:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <85A0B2EF-1DFF-4614-B923-1BA3A7D32611@practicali.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:d9P552MWKw7b65a49XEw9uxAyFZlEtIjG7pkjqPOZX+ q2YFWm86H+rMs/puR6rP3gfDcSqeOQm0YZBvkv3fjSbfd2fvOc 8jUdBspj0smNHUSSKZ/t/hDZg+va70nv9UUuwuMWtrq0S1kJXv bji2V4qDV+g0lBEKAGyxpPBV/fXesNaPfLXpbq5/bZmAdcIdUT YJCykhIEdzAijnDyh2ldiNMB0oJRr+pPX1dsimocopTiw+e8wR WyfO93dgBX1dMqS8HcUGfS+QyRhpbQgWRdeQi/5TrrnJzuQFq0 JHgxdsXNjIrqq954qVEaPxCx6vHa9u0SY5KDDuIruBqpkEtwmD V26tZR/xCOf3GFPKsZiX3ylvCxLEHtDTWglAHnXUMqqmzHvxF/ Z/uq6FCggPEbQ== --Apple-Mail=_4B36FDE5-4CCA-4EC0-8F22-6C4268A89727 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii thankfully no... and DPI is nothing more than a scaling factor. it = doesn't change the actual pixels in an image besides CMYK crashing FCP ( don't you love "designers"), you'll have = problems with anything over 4K in size, and I would not go crazy with a = lot of motion clips in the FCP TL. thats a basic recipe for problems = because FCP simply can't address enough RAM to keep everything happy. = also having an older video card with only 2K texture sizes can also = cause problems - mainly in needing to render stuff that shouldn't need = it.... and those large images also eat up FCP's memory space since they = are held in ram for attempted RT playback S On Jul 20, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Chris Meyer wrote: > Does FCP actually take DPI into account? The very earliest versions of = Premiere used to, but most apps have long since let ago of the notion of = "DPI" having anything to do with video. >=20 > - Chris >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jul 20, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >=20 >> Perhaps I should elaborate. I've been tasked to do a couple of = "slide show" projects (Yikes!). Whenever I brought a bunch of JPEGs in = and tried to do Motion moves, and dissolves between them, FCP crashed = regularly. When I brought the same stills into Pr, I had no crashes. =20= >>=20 >> And on other projects, where I only had occasional stills, I'd still = get crashes from the JPEGs, but not after I converted them to TIF. >>=20 >> That's just been my experience. Maybe it's a codec thing. I think = I'm the Pig Pen of finding things that crash Mac apps. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jul 20, 2012, at 11:51 AM, James Culbertson wrote: >>=20 >>> FCP 7.03? JPEGs and PNGs work just fine in my experience. I'm = working on a feature length doc that I inherited for finishing tasks = that is a smorgasbord of formats - in addition to JPEGs, and PNGs, there = are also BMPs, Tiffs, and PSD. No problems whatsoever. What I would = avoid are PDFs. >>>=20 >>> If I were to choose I would stick with TIFF and JPEG, and use PSD = when necessary. >>>=20 >>> James >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Jul 20, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>>=20 >>>> I've had bad luck with most still formats in FCP. It's pretty = hostile to JPEGs and PNGs, IME. =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Try TIF or TGA, which also support an alpha channel. TIF is what I = use (when I have to.) =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Pr is a LOT better at handling stills, except really large ones. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> That has been my workaround, but it is annoying because I don't = like to use PSDs in FCP. I usually like a flattened file for titles. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>=20 >>>>> "To be is to do"--Socrates >>>>> "To do is to be"--Jean-Paul Sartre >>>>> "Do be do be do"--Frank Sinatra >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Glen Tubbesing wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> You might try using Photoshop's native PSD format, instead. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Jul 20, 2012 6:38 AM, "Benny Christensen" = wrote: >>>>>> I know this isn't the Photoshop list, but since it is pretty = integral to our workflow here goes. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I am having a couple of issues lately. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 1) PNGs are not acting the same way they used to. I can't get the = empty spaces to read as alpha holes in FCP. Is there a better format to = use since PICT files are no longer an option. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 2) Sometimes the program simply will not let me Save a file. The = Save window pops up, but the buttons are not colored and won't react. In = fact, at that point the program is completely locked up and I have to = Force Quit. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Has anyone else seen these problems? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick = themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." - Sir Winston = Churchill >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_4B36FDE5-4CCA-4EC0-8F22-6C4268A89727 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

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On Jul 20, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Chris Meyer wrote:

Does FCP actually take DPI into = account? The very earliest versions of Premiere used to, but most apps = have long since let ago of the notion of "DPI" having anything to do = with video.

 - = Chris



On Jul 20, = 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:

Perhaps I should elaborate. =  I've been tasked to do a couple of "slide show" projects (Yikes!). =  Whenever I brought a bunch of JPEGs in and tried to do Motion = moves, and dissolves between them, FCP crashed regularly.  When I = brought the same stills into Pr, I had no crashes. =  

And on other projects, where I only had = occasional stills, I'd still get crashes from the JPEGs, but not after I = converted them to TIF.

That's just been my = experience.  Maybe it's a codec thing.  I think I'm the Pig = Pen of finding things that crash Mac = apps.



On Jul 20, 2012, = at 11:51 AM, James Culbertson wrote:

FCP 7.03?  JPEGs and = PNGs work just fine in my experience. I'm working on a feature length = doc that I inherited for finishing tasks that is a smorgasbord of = formats - in addition to JPEGs, and PNGs, there are also BMPs, Tiffs, =  and PSD. No problems whatsoever. What I would avoid are = PDFs.

If I were to choose I would stick with = TIFF and JPEG, and use PSD when = necessary.

James


On Jul 20, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:

I've had bad luck with most = still formats in FCP.  It's pretty hostile to JPEGs and PNGs, IME. =  

Try TIF or TGA, which also support an alpha = channel.  TIF is what I use (when I have to.) =  

Pr is a LOT better at handling stills, = except really large ones.


On Jul 20, 2012, at = 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen wrote:

That has been my workaround, = but it is annoying because I don't like to use PSDs in FCP. I usually = like a flattened file for titles.

Thanks.

=
Benny Christensen
Producers = Playhouse
Oklahoma = City
405-858-0700

=
"To be is to = do"--Socrates
"To do is to be"--Jean-Paul Sartre
"Do be do be = do"--Frank = Sinatra
<= /div>







On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Glen Tubbesing = wrote:

You might try using Photoshop's native PSD format, = instead.

On Jul 20, 2012 6:38 AM, "Benny Christensen" = <bennychristensen@me.com> = wrote:
I know this isn't the Photoshop list, but since it is pretty integral to = our workflow here goes.

I am having a couple of issues lately.

1) PNGs are not acting the same way they used to. I can't get the empty = spaces to read as alpha holes in FCP. Is there a better format to use = since PICT files are no longer an option.

2) Sometimes the program simply will not let me Save a file. The Save = window pops up, but the buttons are not colored and won't react. In = fact, at that point the program is completely locked up and I have to = Force Quit.

Has anyone else seen these problems?

Thanks in advance.

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City
405-858-0700

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick = themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." - Sir Winston = Churchill






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