Return-Path: Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net ([207.145.128.243] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4781391 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:35:21 +0200 Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648C2A72E1A for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9467 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2012 19:39:11 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 25305, pid: 27943, t: 0.6220s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from c-67-185-28-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (HELO jamess-mac-pro.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) (albion@[67.185.28.214]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Jul 2012 19:39:11 -0000 From: James Culbertson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_30A2BF6D-5679-4B48-8DF6-A0B578BEB317" Subject: Re: [AE] Photoshop CS6 Issues Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:39:08 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <275232CB-1BC2-4B6D-8F99-D506B3BB1A7D@speakeasy.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail5.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=8.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 --Apple-Mail=_30A2BF6D-5679-4B48-8DF6-A0B578BEB317 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Same here. Tons of motion moves on JPEGs and all the rest of the = formats. How big are the dimensions of the files you are working with? = And how much RAM do you have in your system? I've heard of general = errors and out of memory errors with very large image files and lower = RAM systems (under 8GB RAM). I usually try to keep the files down to = under 3000 pixels on a side if possible. Though again in this project = there are image files as large as 5000 on a side (DPI, actually PPI, is = irrelevant. Some of these still images are 600ppi.). Might be that I am = not having issues because I am working at 720 rather than 1080 = resolution. I generally work with the sequence codec set to ProRes or ProResLT until = final output. Your graphics card isn't as relevant to FCP as it is to say Motion.=20 James On Jul 20, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: > Perhaps I should elaborate. I've been tasked to do a couple of "slide = show" projects (Yikes!). Whenever I brought a bunch of JPEGs in and = tried to do Motion moves, and dissolves between them, FCP crashed = regularly. When I brought the same stills into Pr, I had no crashes. =20= >=20 > And on other projects, where I only had occasional stills, I'd still = get crashes from the JPEGs, but not after I converted them to TIF. >=20 > That's just been my experience. Maybe it's a codec thing. I think = I'm the Pig Pen of finding things that crash Mac apps. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jul 20, 2012, at 11:51 AM, James Culbertson wrote: >=20 >> FCP 7.03? JPEGs and PNGs work just fine in my experience. I'm = working on a feature length doc that I inherited for finishing tasks = that is a smorgasbord of formats - in addition to JPEGs, and PNGs, there = are also BMPs, Tiffs, and PSD. No problems whatsoever. What I would = avoid are PDFs. >>=20 >> If I were to choose I would stick with TIFF and JPEG, and use PSD = when necessary. >>=20 >> James >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jul 20, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>=20 >>> I've had bad luck with most still formats in FCP. It's pretty = hostile to JPEGs and PNGs, IME. =20 >>>=20 >>> Try TIF or TGA, which also support an alpha channel. TIF is what I = use (when I have to.) =20 >>>=20 >>> Pr is a LOT better at handling stills, except really large ones. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen wrote: >>>=20 >>>> That has been my workaround, but it is annoying because I don't = like to use PSDs in FCP. I usually like a flattened file for titles. >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks. >>>>=20 >>>> Benny Christensen >>>> Producers Playhouse >>>> Oklahoma City >>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>=20 >>>> "To be is to do"--Socrates >>>> "To do is to be"--Jean-Paul Sartre >>>> "Do be do be do"--Frank Sinatra >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Glen Tubbesing wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> You might try using Photoshop's native PSD format, instead. >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Jul 20, 2012 6:38 AM, "Benny Christensen" = wrote: >>>>> I know this isn't the Photoshop list, but since it is pretty = integral to our workflow here goes. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I am having a couple of issues lately. >>>>>=20 >>>>> 1) PNGs are not acting the same way they used to. I can't get the = empty spaces to read as alpha holes in FCP. Is there a better format to = use since PICT files are no longer an option. >>>>>=20 >>>>> 2) Sometimes the program simply will not let me Save a file. The = Save window pops up, but the buttons are not colored and won't react. In = fact, at that point the program is completely locked up and I have to = Force Quit. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Has anyone else seen these problems? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Benny Christensen >>>>> Producers Playhouse >>>>> Oklahoma City >>>>> 405-858-0700 >>>>>=20 >>>>> "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick = themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." - Sir Winston = Churchill >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_30A2BF6D-5679-4B48-8DF6-A0B578BEB317 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Perhaps I should elaborate. =  I've been tasked to do a couple of "slide show" projects (Yikes!). =  Whenever I brought a bunch of JPEGs in and tried to do Motion = moves, and dissolves between them, FCP crashed regularly.  When I = brought the same stills into Pr, I had no crashes. =  

And on other projects, where I only had = occasional stills, I'd still get crashes from the JPEGs, but not after I = converted them to TIF.

That's just been my = experience.  Maybe it's a codec thing.  I think I'm the Pig = Pen of finding things that crash Mac = apps.



On Jul 20, 2012, = at 11:51 AM, James Culbertson wrote:

FCP 7.03?  JPEGs and = PNGs work just fine in my experience. I'm working on a feature length = doc that I inherited for finishing tasks that is a smorgasbord of = formats - in addition to JPEGs, and PNGs, there are also BMPs, Tiffs, =  and PSD. No problems whatsoever. What I would avoid are = PDFs.

If I were to choose I would stick with = TIFF and JPEG, and use PSD when = necessary.

James


On Jul 20, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:

I've had bad luck with most = still formats in FCP.  It's pretty hostile to JPEGs and PNGs, IME. =  

Try TIF or TGA, which also support an alpha = channel.  TIF is what I use (when I have to.) =  

Pr is a LOT better at handling stills, = except really large ones.


On Jul 20, 2012, at = 8:55 AM, Benny Christensen wrote:

That has been my workaround, = but it is annoying because I don't like to use PSDs in FCP. I usually = like a flattened file for titles.

Thanks.

=
Benny Christensen
Producers = Playhouse
Oklahoma = City
405-858-0700

=
"To be is to = do"--Socrates
"To do is to be"--Jean-Paul Sartre
"Do be do be = do"--Frank = Sinatra
<= /div>







On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Glen Tubbesing = wrote:

You might try using Photoshop's native PSD format, = instead.

On Jul 20, 2012 6:38 AM, "Benny Christensen" = <bennychristensen@me.com> = wrote:
I know this isn't the Photoshop list, but since it is pretty integral to = our workflow here goes.

I am having a couple of issues lately.

1) PNGs are not acting the same way they used to. I can't get the empty = spaces to read as alpha holes in FCP. Is there a better format to use = since PICT files are no longer an option.

2) Sometimes the program simply will not let me Save a file. The Save = window pops up, but the buttons are not colored and won't react. In = fact, at that point the program is completely locked up and I have to = Force Quit.

Has anyone else seen these problems?

Thanks in advance.

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma City
405-858-0700

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick = themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." - Sir Winston = Churchill






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