Return-Path: Received: from gateway07.websitewelcome.com ([67.18.36.29] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4786211 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:11:44 +0200 Received: by gateway07.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 70DAED1D4D4C1; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:15:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alpina.websitewelcome.com (alpina.websitewelcome.com [74.54.176.2]) by gateway07.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EFFD1D4D481 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:15:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [199.21.106.94] (port=51861 helo=[192.168.0.5]) by alpina.websitewelcome.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Su67d-0005ZQ-Ie for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:15:45 -0500 From: Chris Meyer Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_173BE232-89F8-4CF3-BE3C-5D1DFB78973E" Subject: Re: [AE] color space management Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:15:44 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <1F4F5BCB-034D-459C-BB97-18BF9EFB2E2B@crishdesign.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - alpina.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crishdesign.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.168.0.5]) [199.21.106.94]:51861 X-Source-Auth: chris@crishdesign.com X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7YWxwaW5hLndlYnNpdGV3ZWxjb21lLmNvbQ== --Apple-Mail=_173BE232-89F8-4CF3-BE3C-5D1DFB78973E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 It's not a matter of gold standard; it's a matter of the right standard. = If they use different color profiles, you need to interpret it using the = color profile it was created with to get back to the its original = colors, regardless of the amount of compression used when saving it. - Chris On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Jonathan Penzner wrote: > This doesn't make sense. Why wouldn't the TIFFs be the gold standard. = JPEGs compressed for the web would be a step down from the full rez = TIFFS, no? >=20 >=20 > On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: >=20 >> Personally, I would grade them in photoshop, come up with an action = and batch process them there, instead of fiddling with AE's color = management which is mainly meant for video processing of different color = profiles. Photoshop is going to be a better tool for detailed image = matching. Although of course it is possible with AE. >>=20 >> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM, wrote: >> I don't usually have to worry about Color Space management, but I am >> making a piece about a photographer and the book of her photos she is >> publishing. >>=20 >> She has given me high res TIFF files of those photos for use in an AE >> built montage. She has also given me low res jpg's built for the web = so I >> can compare the two (TIFF and JPG) and get the tiff to look like the = jpg. >> Even though I know some things about color management, it seems I = don't >> know enough to get the TIFF's to look like the JPEG's. (the JPEGs' = look >> more saturated and orangey and in IMHO, look worse that the TIFF's = when I >> bring both in without changing any settings. >>=20 >> Can anyone point me to a good resource for figuring out where I am = going >> wrong ? >>=20 >> Thanks - mike o >>=20 >> CS5.5 >> OSX10.6.8 >> Mac Pro 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Animator & Editor >> www.teddygage.com >> Brooklyn >>=20 >=20 >=20 > JONATHAN PENZNER > SUNDANCE/REALTIME > VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN >=20 > | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | > | CELL 818 321-2890 | >=20 > SUREAL@CHARTER.NET >=20 --Apple-Mail=_173BE232-89F8-4CF3-BE3C-5D1DFB78973E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 It's = not a matter of gold standard; it's a matter of the right standard. If = they use different color profiles, you need to interpret it using the = color profile it was created with to get back to the its original = colors, regardless of the amount of compression used when saving = it.

 - = Chris


On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:42 = AM, Jonathan Penzner wrote:

This doesn't make sense. = Why wouldn't the TIFFs be the gold standard. JPEGs compressed for the = web would be a step down from the full rez TIFFS, = no?


On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:36 AM, = Teddy Gage wrote:

Personally, I would grade them in photoshop, come up with = an action and batch process them there, instead of fiddling with AE's = color management which is mainly meant for video processing of different = color profiles. Photoshop is going to be a better tool for detailed = image matching. Although of course it is possible with AE.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM, <mpo@michaeloreilly.com> = wrote:
I don't usually have to worry about Color Space management, but I am
making a piece about a photographer and the book of her photos she = is
publishing.

She has given me high res TIFF files of those photos for use in an = AE
built montage. She has also given me low res jpg's built for the web so = I
can compare the two (TIFF and JPG) and get the tiff to look like the = jpg.
Even though I know some things about color management, it seems I = don't
know enough to get the TIFF's to look like the JPEG's. (the JPEGs' = look
more saturated and orangey and in IMHO, look worse that the TIFF's when = I
bring both in without changing any settings.

Can anyone point me to a good resource for figuring out where I am = going
wrong ?

Thanks - mike o

CS5.5
OSX10.6.8
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