Return-Path: Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4786251 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:40:44 +0200 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120725184445.ZCNG12025.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:44:45 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.14] ([71.94.133.66]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id eikk1j00d1S6qBK05iklrm; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:44:45 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=de4lG9b5LBLbdPP1mBfs3/eRZB7j2kpYfCvmEe8raAk= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=Vx6aIzdhH7H4BIXK4xUDUQ==:17 a=crJMYgr0AAAA:8 a=bWdBkzTTAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=v1KWZliwcwiRul1D_kIA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=RFaxJ1YKWH0A:10 a=p3b_eOXHgIUA:10 a=i_ystWAnD3wA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=Vx6aIzdhH7H4BIXK4xUDUQ==:117 From: Jonathan Penzner Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-56--137535267 Subject: Re: [AE] color space management Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:44:44 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-56--137535267 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Agreed, Chris. My thinking was that the TIFFS were the originals and the = JPEGs generated from them. It just seemed backwards. On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Chris Meyer wrote: > It's not a matter of gold standard; it's a matter of the right = standard. If they use different color profiles, you need to interpret it = using the color profile it was created with to get back to the its = original colors, regardless of the amount of compression used when = saving it. >=20 > - Chris >=20 >=20 > On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Jonathan Penzner wrote: >=20 >> This doesn't make sense. Why wouldn't the TIFFs be the gold standard. = JPEGs compressed for the web would be a step down from the full rez = TIFFS, no? >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: >>=20 >>> Personally, I would grade them in photoshop, come up with an action = and batch process them there, instead of fiddling with AE's color = management which is mainly meant for video processing of different color = profiles. Photoshop is going to be a better tool for detailed image = matching. Although of course it is possible with AE. >>>=20 >>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM, wrote: >>> I don't usually have to worry about Color Space management, but I am >>> making a piece about a photographer and the book of her photos she = is >>> publishing. >>>=20 >>> She has given me high res TIFF files of those photos for use in an = AE >>> built montage. She has also given me low res jpg's built for the web = so I >>> can compare the two (TIFF and JPG) and get the tiff to look like the = jpg. >>> Even though I know some things about color management, it seems I = don't >>> know enough to get the TIFF's to look like the JPEG's. (the JPEGs' = look >>> more saturated and orangey and in IMHO, look worse that the TIFF's = when I >>> bring both in without changing any settings. >>>=20 >>> Can anyone point me to a good resource for figuring out where I am = going >>> wrong ? >>>=20 >>> Thanks - mike o >>>=20 >>> CS5.5 >>> OSX10.6.8 >>> Mac Pro 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Animator & Editor >>> www.teddygage.com >>> Brooklyn >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> JONATHAN PENZNER >> SUNDANCE/REALTIME >> VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN >>=20 >> | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | >> | CELL 818 321-2890 | >>=20 >> SUREAL@CHARTER.NET >>=20 >=20 JONATHAN PENZNER SUNDANCE/REALTIME VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | | CELL 818 321-2890 | SUREAL@CHARTER.NET --Apple-Mail-56--137535267 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
It's not a matter of gold = standard; it's a matter of the right standard. If they use different = color profiles, you need to interpret it using the color profile it was = created with to get back to the its original colors, regardless of the = amount of compression used when saving it.

 - = Chris


On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:42 = AM, Jonathan Penzner wrote:

This doesn't make sense. = Why wouldn't the TIFFs be the gold standard. JPEGs compressed for the = web would be a step down from the full rez TIFFS, = no?


On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:36 AM, = Teddy Gage wrote:

Personally, I would grade them in photoshop, come up with = an action and batch process them there, instead of fiddling with AE's = color management which is mainly meant for video processing of different = color profiles. Photoshop is going to be a better tool for detailed = image matching. Although of course it is possible with AE.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM, <mpo@michaeloreilly.com> = wrote:
I don't usually have to worry about Color Space management, but I am
making a piece about a photographer and the book of her photos she = is
publishing.

She has given me high res TIFF files of those photos for use in an = AE
built montage. She has also given me low res jpg's built for the web so = I
can compare the two (TIFF and JPG) and get the tiff to look like the = jpg.
Even though I know some things about color management, it seems I = don't
know enough to get the TIFF's to look like the JPEG's. (the JPEGs' = look
more saturated and orangey and in IMHO, look worse that the TIFF's when = I
bring both in without changing any settings.

Can anyone point me to a good resource for figuring out where I am = going
wrong ?

Thanks - mike o

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