Return-Path: Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4790931 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:59:25 +0200 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120730080335.UMDL12025.mta21.charter.net@imp10> for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:03:35 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.14] ([71.94.133.66]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id gY3a1j0051S6qBK05Y3aD6; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:03:35 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=u2vu/Ocp0bQ6m2MO0KUY0MS1xIoK39gCmxTU3UkKy94= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=Vx6aIzdhH7H4BIXK4xUDUQ==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=Gxc8mBUDLnJr-BWmO0UA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=RFaxJ1YKWH0A:10 a=p3b_eOXHgIUA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=0SpClaEdMdjMq11RDeQA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Vx6aIzdhH7H4BIXK4xUDUQ==:117 From: Jonathan Penzner Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-255994066 Subject: Re: [AE] DVD Question Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:03:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <1CC7D777-8891-4CA9-9B1C-5A76443B406C@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-7-255994066 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I use DVDSP to author. I've never noticed anything in the program about = dual layers but I'll take a look when I get a chance. And Compressor to = create the M2Vs. In line with your advice, there wouldn't be a problem with shifting to = another layer. The DVD will contain about 60 discreet videos =96 = actually around 12 videos in 5 different languages. Each language is = it's own piece as audio and graphics are unique to each video.=20 Thanks for the information. On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:51 AM, Chris Zwar wrote: > A dual layer DVD will certainly play in normal players. There's = nothing unusual about a dual layer disc at all, most retail discs are = dual layer. They take longer to burn but don't require you to do = anything different. If you are using a professional authoring system = you can choose the point at which the video changes layers for minimal = disruption to the viewer (ie on a natural cut point, not in the middle = of a shot). You won't get 250 minutes of video on a single layer disc. >=20 > It depends on the content as to how well the video will compress. All = normal rules about compression apply - fast movement will look blocky, = fades and dissolves will look blocky at low bit rates. But without = looking at all 250 minutes of video it's hard to say exactly how bad it = will look. You obviously want to use a good multi-pass compression = tool. >=20 > -Chris >=20 > On 30/07/2012, at 5:38 PM, Jonathan Penzner wrote: >=20 >> Good day to everyone. >>=20 >> A client wants to jam around 250 minutes of video into a standard = DVD. Is that even possible or will the result just look like such crap = that it becomes pointless? It's a combination of of footage, graphics = and audio =96 VO over a bed, in most cases. Just wondering what the = accepted wisdom is here. Perhaps a dual layered DVD is the answer. But = will that play in standard players? >>=20 >> Thanks in advance. >>=20 >>=20 >> Jonathan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> JONATHAN PENZNER >> SUNDANCE/REALTIME >> VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN >>=20 >> | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | >> | CELL 818 321-2890 | >>=20 >> SUREAL@CHARTER.NET >>=20 >=20 JONATHAN PENZNER SUNDANCE/REALTIME VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | | CELL 818 321-2890 | SUREAL@CHARTER.NET --Apple-Mail-7-255994066 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
A dual layer DVD will certainly = play in normal players.  There's nothing unusual about a dual layer = disc at all, most retail discs are dual layer.  They take longer to = burn but don't require you to do anything different.  If you are = using a professional authoring system you can choose the point at which = the video changes layers for minimal disruption to the viewer (ie on a = natural cut point, not in the middle of a shot).  You won't get 250 = minutes of video on a single layer disc.

It depends = on the content as to how well the video will compress.  All normal = rules about compression apply - fast movement will look blocky, fades = and dissolves will look blocky at low bit rates.  But without = looking at all 250 minutes of video it's hard to say exactly how bad it = will look.  You obviously want to use a good multi-pass compression = tool.

-Chris

On 30/07/2012, = at 5:38 PM, Jonathan Penzner wrote:

Good day to = everyone.

A client wants to jam around 250 = minutes of video into a standard DVD. Is that even possible or will the = result just look like such crap that it becomes pointless? It's a = combination of of footage, graphics and audio =96 VO over a bed, in most = cases. Just wondering what the accepted wisdom is here. Perhaps a dual = layered DVD is the answer. But will that play in standard = players?

Thanks in = advance.


Jonathan



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